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post #1 of 37 (permalink) Old 07-27-2010, 12:50 AM Thread Starter
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does anybody know where the drain for the ac is out blower motor has quit and the box is full of water
2008 endeavor ls awd
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post #2 of 37 (permalink) Old 07-27-2010, 01:07 AM
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they hide it in a hole on the left side of the lower firewall...kinda behind the steering rack...
u need a long pipe on a blower nozzle to get at it..

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ill look for it
btw how common is it for the boxes to overflow and shortout the blowers?
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very

there are tsb's about it from mitsu also...

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is there a link or something to the tsb so i can read it?
and thankyou
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we went to the dealership today to have it fixed and was told that it was not under warranty
i guess we will drive it till it quits cause appaerently it has no tradein and no warranty
if we ever get out of this thing we never get another one
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Kinda got one on the same thread here. My condenser just started draining water into the front driver's side floorboard. Lots of water. Checked the drain tube hole (wow is that hard to get to) and fished a wire into it last night. Plenty of water coming out, didn't seem like it was plugged. Pulled the carpet up, found the port where the drain goes through the firewall, and there's water running back into the car still. So I have plenty of water draining OUTSIDE, as well as draining inside. WTF? Is there a gasket that might be bad? Is it something I can get to myself or do I need dealer help to pull the dash? My blower seems to still be working fine, but I don't want this to get out of hand and take out the blower motor, or worse yet, start growing a garden of mold under my floorboards. Any help?
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Found this on JustAnswer.com...sounds pretty legit, was credited to a Mitsu technician. Anyone tried this? Sounds like threading a garden hose through the eye of a needle to me...

This drain is only accessible from underneath the vehicle. Note that if you have an AWD, you really need to have the vehicle on a proper lift to perform this repair. It is simply to tight to do lying on the ground

Access from the top is 100% impossible, so for a FWD you will need to put the front of the vehicle on jack stands or service ramps.

Laying underneath the vehicle, look at the center of the firewall where you will observe a set of metal brake lines running up the firewall then making a 90 degree turn toward the drivers side.
Right in the corner of that 90 degree turn you should see a hole drilled in the firewall of approximately 3/4" diameter.

You can pull the brake lines gently off the firewall (they are snapped into plastic looms) and stick your finger in the firewall hole and feel around. Looking straight at the front of the vehicle, the drain tube is inside the hole, down 3/4" and to the right (driver side) 3/4".

Needless to say, it is not extremely accessible. It is possible to get in there with a pipe cleaner or a compressed air gun with a 2-3" long nose on the end with practice. The first time will be a bear though.

Things to note:
If you only have water on the driver side and not the passenger side, and as well do not have any sloshing noises etc while turning, your drain is NOT clogged, but rather the draintube seal on the firewall has failed.

When this failure of the foam seal between the drain tube and the firewall happens, water runs down the bottom of the tube and runs right past the seal back into the car (think about pouring water out of a glass, how it runs down the side), thus only wetting the driver side.

There are two solutions to this problem; You can remove the entire dash and AC box and replace the seal (not fun, and around $700 in labor), or you can install an auxiliary drain hose onto the tube.

The second is not an official repair however the problem is so great on these vehicles Mitsubishi is doing this regularly rather than paying for dash removals.
The hose used is for the coolant overflow jug on a 00-05 eclipse. Is is exactly the same diameter as the drain tube.
To install, you will need to fish a flexible metal rod into the drain tube to guide the rubber tube, then slide the tube over it until it seats on the drain tube. This will permanently fix driver side floor problems.
Performing this repair out of warranty is typically about $150.

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well we have had an interesting turn of events with our ac problem, we took it to the nearest dealer and they said that there was rust on the dash supporuts and that they couldnt coverit becuse it wasnt under warranty so we came home then a buddy called that used to work at a dealership in the service department dealing with warranties.He asked me if i checked the warranty and i told him no i didnt think about it well i checked it and the rust on the dash was covered under the rust warranty, then i get a call from mitsubishi asking me how i liked the service we recived from the dealer i told i didnt and then told them what happened well anyways she sent a email to the dealer and asked me if i wasnted to inclued anything in it i said yes and told her to site tsb 09-55-002.
A couple of days later i get a call from the dealer we took it to and they asked me tobring it back in to check it out again ,we did and the parts are on order and now we just wait.
after the ac is fixed then ill talk to themabout the the rust that was caused by the air box over flowing
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my turn.. I just brought in my truck to have the oil change and they discovered this same exact problem, my floor boards were soaked. And when they pried open the drain plug from under my truck, water was dripping out. .. they quoted me $1124 to fix it.. I think I am just going to ride it out, and keep my air off for a while =)
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did they clear the drain tube?

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SRSONE @ Feb 24 2011, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
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did they clear the drain tube?[/b]
i dont think so, they just told me that I can unplug the drain hole that is located near the rear driver side door, and it would drain it
out, but advised that it would keep refilling, the more I use my a/c... what should i do?
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no i mean the a/c drain tube..like the thread is talking about...
what usually happens is either the tube gets clogged with dirt and debris..u should also check your cars warranty history..there was a tsb on the early endeavors for debris getting into the air box..they changed the cover design to help stop debris from getting into the air box..

and the other thing is that the gasket between the air box and the firewall degrades and lets water run back into the car ..but this is less likely the problem..

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SRSONE @ Feb 25 2011, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
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no i mean the a/c drain tube..like the thread is talking about...
what usually happens is either the tube gets clogged with dirt and debris..u should also check your cars warranty history..there was a tsb on the early endeavors for debris getting into the air box..they changed the cover design to help stop debris from getting into the air box..

and the other thing is that the gasket between the air box and the firewall degrades and lets water run back into the car ..but this is less likely the problem..[/b]
actually, I think that the gasket you are referring to was the problem. they said the "AC Case Seal at my firewall is corroded" and it is causing the water from my ac to run under my drivers side floor board, and it is so full that they think my entire foam underfloor is most likely wet. But I can't tell from just touching the floor that it is wet...
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well another ac problem this time the freon is gone
you know we had more problems out of this thing than i did my 86 escort i paid 300 form and drove the crap out of
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arent u still covered by the 5/60?
or are u out by miles?

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Just to share a similar problem FYI. With my Endeavor, I also had massive amounts of water draining into the driver floorboard. ShopVac's full of water. Foam under carpet was throughly soaked, and pools of water under that. After doing some reading, I put her up on ramps and located the drain tube. It wasn't clogged, as water was still pooring out of it AND onto the passenger floor, as another member had stated. I brought it to a dealer in South Houston (where I lived at the time) and they told me some ridiculous number (over 1,000) it would be to fix the leak. However, he did state that there were additional drain plugs that could be pulled to reroute this water to the outside of the vehicle. This technician told me that it fixed 90% of the Endeavors he had looked at with the same problem. It was worth a shot, and only cost 150 or so. Worked like a charm. It's been about a year, and my floor is as dry as the day I got her. Living in Southern Lousiana now, I use my AC ALOT. Ask about this if your having the same problem, there were at least 3, maybe 4 plugs pulled. I can check if anyones interested, they are still in my center console. Probably could dig up the work report from the dealer too.
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out by a thousand but we got it recharged at our mechanic 45.00 compared to 159 + tax
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i would check the upper corners of the condenser they are known to leak there..

if thats where it is leaking- it wouldnt hurt to ask the dealer to fix it if u are that close to the warranty..
since it is a known issue..

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our mechanic couldnt find any leaks
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