Triton Performance Chip? Options

[bobeadle]

Recommendations for Triton L200 3.2 L Diesel Dual Cab A/T performance chip?

Where can I buy?

Thanks! :)

[chain rattle]

just a guess

ask an auto electrician / a performance shop /

didnt know they made a performance chip to suit the L200

[bobeadle]

Thanks. Fat chance here in Brazil. The Triton was launched here only 6 months ago.

I've seen a few performance chip brands on this Forum.

One from Oz, another from South Africa. "Piggyback", etc....

I'm sure someone out there knows which work, which don't.

Bob

[erne]

Hello Guys ,
You can buy powerbox cr plus this piggyback that in my opinion is the best buy you can find !
I got it some time ago , and I am pretty happy.
The amout of torque you gain is impressive.
http://www.tdc-technologies.com/
The site is not updated so u cant buy online , but if you mail Dave he is a very nice guy there to help you!
Hope this will help

[bobeadle]

Erne,

Advice spot on and immediate. Sensational, thanks!

You use yours on the new or the older model Triton? 3.2 or 2.5 L? Auto or manual? Which country?

Powerbox CR and Piggyback, separate diesel engine management and performance chip?

Thanks, mate! :)

Bob

[erne]

New Model 2.5 DiD , manual , I am located in Ethiopia.
The PowerBox CRplus are so called "Plug & Drive" devices.
You don't have to solder or cut wires. Both come with OEM connectors. The unit is installed directly to the common rail pressure sensor. The CR sensor is located in the high-pressure fuel line (common rail), which runs parallel to the cylinder heads. All of our products come with installation instructions (in English).
The PowerBox CRplus is fully digital and includes a signal variation switch with multiple settings, so there's never a problem finding the setting that's best for your vehicle. You can even turn the PowerBox off while it is still connected.

Despite its potential for tremendous power improvement, the CRplus has been programmed to provide better fuel efficiency. Its unique programming increases power when needed most. During acceleration, the injection time required to achieve higher speeds is substantially reduced. This minimizes fuel consumption. In fact, independent testing revealed fuel economy savings from 10% to 15% at signal variation settings between from "3" to "6."

[bobeadle]

Thanks for that. Is your Triton's motor the same as my 2008 Mitsu Triton 3.2 L L200 Diesel Common Rail? I gather your rep TDC products- is that right?

If so, how would you say this chip compares with reputable, competing performance add ons (not the duds, of course). Can you tell me which TDK performance product is compatible with vehicle's stock specs...

Compression: 17.0:1
Common Rail electronic engine management & fuel injection
Power (max): 165 hp @ 3800 rpm (AT)
Torque (max): 38.1 kgf.m @ 2000 rpm

Besides improved torque, roughly what increase in max power (hp and/or PS) should I expect? At what rpm?

Glad to hear "Plug & Play" not a complex install. No one I know is aware of these units here in Brazil. Important: Vehicle will be on Warranty for the next two years. To avoid cancellation of warranty, is the unit quick to remove/replace for each 5k/10K dealer inspection? Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Bob

[erne]

MM Complicated questions!!

I try to answer some.!
The engine is pratically the same except the capacity and the fact that you have more HP amd torque.
I dont rep TDC products , I am just a happy costumer.
I can suggest you also other very nice alternative brands , but the price is going to increse look at this F ex. http://www.steinbauer.cc/neu/index.php?sel...int&select_l=en .
Going back to the tdc :
As for the increse of power in your car I saw that the old powerbox (not digital) for your car had this power increse ,but for the plus u better ask directly tdc:
Power (max): 192 hp @ 3500 rpm
Torque (max): 405 NM @ 2000 rpm

Is very easy to install and probably will take u 10-15 minutes.
As for the warranty , of course is a problem , but as u said u can always remove every dealer inspection. My local dealer told me is no problem for them , but this is very delicate and personal.

What do you think about your triton ? Are u happy?

[bobeadle]

Erne,

Thanks for your patience! :)

It all seems very straightforward. All I need to find out with Dave/TDC is ....


1. How the PowerBox CR "PLUS" is different from PowerBox CR. One thing is, the PLUS is digital where I gather the UNPLUS was not.

2. If PRICES taking delivery in the EU are the SAME as taking delivery in the US.

I like the Trident, which I took delivery on a week ago very much. It was released in Brazil in November, 2007. I was about to buy a Toyota HiLux (the "fat" model released in Brazil in 2005.
But when I saw the advantages this far more progressive, modern vehicle offered- no contest!

Almost no contest....

When the new "fat" HiLux came out it took some time to get used to the more American styled, macho model. Dual cabs in South America are seen as 'luxury' vehicles, rather than work vehicles. They may be thought of as "fat banker" cars, the only concession being a 30% lower price for a "work vehicle" than the equivalent SUV. Only because they have a truck bed- really!

However, by the time I was ready to buy in 2008, I had, grudgingly, accepted the design. I'd seen the new Triton, but thought the design rather effete or precious. All those curves! Afterall, they're not, you know, "functional". Like a "real (man's) truck". Besides, I was used to the look of the HiLux, until.....

I looked more closely at the Triton. I was impressed. Although still favoring "the look" of the Toyota, I could find no way to justify the American truck culture's macho prejudices. I bought it.

Now, I'm very happy with the vehicle. There's never enough power, with bikes or cars or trucks. That's to be expected. The Triton grows on you, I found.

Now I'm what you could call a "reverse-macho snob". I sometimes ever refer to it as my "**** Truck", just to stick it to macho poseur truck friends of mine. It's go SO much more to offer than the HiLux, I wonder why it isn't in more demand.

In Brazil, the answer seems to be that buyers rely on conventional wisdom that Toyota is best, that is "most reliable". Hey, it's a good vehicle. But much of the prejudice in favor of the Toyota seems based on very lengthy product cycles. This in turn creates high resale value and the inherrent committment to the procut that comes with them.

Toyota is conventional, conservative and competent. Mitsubishi is creative, progressive and exciting.

That's enough for me!

Best wishes,
Bob

[erne]

HEHE I like your description.

This is what Dave wrote me some time ago.And by the way they have a US based shop.

The PowerBox CR consists of a microprocessor and an integrated circuit that incorporates some capacitors and resistors. The analog components only control the adjustment. The microprocessor controls all data flow, so essentially we can call it a digital PowerBox. The power improvement is moderate when compared to the CRplus. The power gain is somewhat linear with acceleration and increases as speed increases gradually throughout the entire speed range. The PowerBox is adjusted by means of a built-in adjustment screw. The adjustment screw is either turned clockwise or counterclockwise to increase/decrease power. The unit's increased power and torque provides a modest increase in fuel efficiency - approximately an additional 5%. With some vehicles, the savings is even greater

The CRplus has been programmed for optimal performance. Power gains vary depending on engine and ECU type. Essentially, the power improvement is linear to acceleration; however, a greater boost is provided when there's an immediate demand for acceleration. This reduces the time required to pass other vehicles, and, in some cases, means less time exposure to oncoming traffic.

[bobeadle]

Thanks Erne!

The description Dave sent is helpful. Since the CR Plus does not appear on the list of products (just the CR, for my motor), I need to ask the difference (price, power, reliability, etc.)

Plus check the Steinbauer tuning site you mentioned:

Thanks again!

Bob

[erne]

Ciao

What have you done?

Bye

[bobeadle]

On your recommendation and Dave's guarantees it has worked well with the 3.2L, I will soon order TDC's PowerBox Plus.

Steinbauer, expensive and just a bit arrogant, although conservative: "20% increase in power") DP 31, expensive and online rep finds it convenient to work with Aussie locals for the good service, trading tradition- which I imagine is little use to us in the Gulf or here in Brazil.

Have you measured the HP (PS, KW) and torque increase using PowerBox on your vehicle?

Only question: TDC does not indicate absolute power increases by vehicle (varies by "application"). Only rough percentages for the PowerBox 25-50% and plus (another 20-30% or so). But even the minimum percentages, if you can believe them, are above Steinbauer and DP 31.

Guess I will have to wait and see.

Thanks again for your help.

:clap: :)

[KiT TeUnG 2549]

Good job Dave i got here late LoL. Yeah i have a Triton but its an older model with a 3.5 i flashed my ECU (reprogrammed) Yeah most of wut yu will find is piggy back and stand alone units. The ECU are non chipable unlike the older PROM and read access units. Units are sold as re-flasehed with new programing or etc , My system is flashed with a piggybacg for my injectors . My dad is frum Brasil , Mato Grosso!!

[bobeadle]

Oops, lost the reply...

Good 'job', Dave? Maybe I got 50% of that and far less than I can use. What cn you expect from a newbie? You seems to know what you're talking about, so... if you (and Dave) don't mind: What plug and play piggyback would YOU use on a 3.2 L? (I'd also ask "why", but I'm afraid to.) As your dad's Brazilian, I guess you are, too. Fala Portugúes? Liked Chiang Mai very much when I was there. Weather something like Bahia's, except for the Monsoon.

[KiT TeUnG 2549]

Well my dad is Bororo , my older brothers are born in Sao Paulo , and meeha nd my twin are born here in Chiang Mai , my mum is Lanna Thai ( of Chiang Mai) , Portugese do Brasil , yu asked. fala , not as well as my brotehrs , i am not as well spoken as they are.

The older ECU systems had a Programmed Read Only Module (PROM) which had a stored basic settings for the ECU to go by. Which is why yu can chip an older model ECU equipped Vehicle , like 1995 down , later than 1995.5 the computer was made more complex with , amongst more processing power the whole unit works as one and many modules are within it that store and retreive data. Which is why it cannot be chipped. But like i have done to my own ECU , there are companies that sell , like Ralliart , Motronix , J-East sell kits to which yu can modfiy yur ECU tuning . But it requires a small bit of knowledge. Most kits require , the use of an Windows XP computer with certain specifications. It has a program that yu can look at the mapping , yu can manually put in adjustments if yu are a profesional or there are pre done upgraded setting for more power and efficiency already on teh syste that yu can choose frum and then it will "flash" yur ECU and reprogram the designated performance ecu tunings yu desire. The kits depending are usually model specific and are not very expensive at all anymore. They usually work on a range of the same model within 2 years up and down of teh model , GDI, DiD etc.

A piggyback i kno of is also by these same companies , but others are out there , a Piggy-back unit is a unit that plugs inline with the ECU itself , it does away with having to take time and flash and reprogram the unit. And it plugs right in and yur ready to go , and if yu choose yu can take it out . Also there are complete stand alone units that Ralliart / Rallitronix / Motronix makes that are complete ECU systems that replace yur old one , altho i find them expensive sumtimes and either too much of wut yu desire or not enough.

[KiT TeUnG 2549]

Well my dad is Bororo , my older brothers are born in Sao Paulo , and meeha nd my twin are born here in Chiang Mai , my mum is Lanna Thai ( of Chiang Mai) , Portugese do Brasil , yu asked. fala , not as well as my brotehrs , i am not as well spoken as they are.

The older ECU systems had a Programmed Read Only Module (PROM) which had a stored basic settings for the ECU to go by. Which is why yu can chip an older model ECU equipped Vehicle , like 1995 down , later than 1995.5 the computer was made more complex with , amongst more processing power the whole unit works as one and many modules are within it that store and retreive data. Which is why it cannot be chipped. But like i have done to my own ECU , there are companies that sell , like Ralliart , Motronix , J-East sell kits to which yu can modfiy yur ECU tuning . But it requires a small bit of knowledge. Most kits require , the use of an Windows XP computer with certain specifications. It has a program that yu can look at the mapping , yu can manually put in adjustments if yu are a profesional or there are pre done upgraded setting for more power and efficiency already on teh syste that yu can choose frum and then it will "flash" yur ECU and reprogram the designated performance ecu tunings yu desire. The kits depending are usually model specific and are not very expensive at all anymore. They usually work on a range of the same model within 2 years up and down of teh model , GDI, DiD etc.

A piggyback i kno of is also by these same companies , but others are out there , a Piggy-back unit is a unit that plugs inline with the ECU itself , it does away with having to take time and flash and reprogram the unit. And it plugs right in and yur ready to go , and if yu choose yu can take it out . Also there are complete stand alone units that Ralliart / Rallitronix / Motronix makes that are complete ECU systems that replace yur old one , altho i find them expensive sumtimes and either too much of wut yu desire or not enough.

[KiT TeUnG 2549]

Oops, lost the reply...

Good 'job', Dave?  Maybe I got 50% of that and far less than I can use.  What cn you expect from a newbie?  You seems to know what you're talking about, so... if you (and Dave) don't mind:  What plug and play piggyback would YOU use on a 3.2 L?  (I'd also ask "why", but I'm afraid to.)  As your dad's Brazilian, I guess you are, too.  Fala Portugúes?  Liked Chiang Mai very much when I was there.  Weather something like Bahia's, except for the Monsoon.
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yeah the weathers pretty similar if not almost the same , terraine also , yeah i like it up here , i hear the 3.2 is pretty tough with sumthin frum Ralliart or Rallitronic / Rallitronix , especially if yur like meeh and love to mud it or general off terraine driving. I stay not far off of the River Ping , northern area

[bobeadle]

Thanks for the performance enhancement tips. Impressive. Non technical, I'd better stick to the plug & play variety. Although the stand alone ECU approach may be best, while on Warranty the next couple years I'd better stick with removable (when servicing) and replug between service intervals. Thanks again. :clap:

[mickyb]

i can supply a piggyback digital unit for 250 pounds that gives 25/30 per cent more power and a good lift in torque, we will send to any country, paypal accepted and you can buy off our ebay shop international_auto_supplies