Brakes Upgrading ?, 60 - 0 is also important Options

[SRSONE]

just to throw my 2 cents in....

if u r upgrading from 1 piston caliper to 2 piston i would also think u would have too upgrade the master cylinder also?

does it push the same amount of fluid/pressure ?
has anybody checked?

and i wouldnt buy used brake parts from ebay or other wise... most states its illegal..

u can probably get reman from napa just has cheap...
or an outfit called ohio caliper sells really good kits as well

[piggylover1985]

just to throw my 2 cents in....

if u r upgrading from 1 piston caliper to 2 piston i would also think u would have too upgrade the master cylinder also?

does it push the same amount of fluid/pressure ?
has anybody checked?

and i wouldnt buy used brake parts from ebay or other wise... most states its illegal..

u can probably get reman from napa just has cheap...
or an outfit called ohio caliper sells really good kits as well

do i have to upgrade the master cyl too ? i thought the go to the 2 piston caliper it will have more contact area on the back pad, that means it will have more area to grip the rotor better instead of just 1 small piston in the middle, that will make it stop quicker, and if the system is full, after i bleed the caliper, the pressure is now control with my foot right ?

up here in MA, it is not illegal to buy used brake part, but Emission part like Exhaust and stuff is a NO, NO, but i get your point, sometimes the used ebay parts is not the best quality, and most of them say "buy as is" means no warranty, return or exchange, i can check with NAPA
(Never Any Part Available) lol for pricing, i have good discount with them anyway
Thanx man

[4G63Attack]

just to throw my 2 cents in....

if u r upgrading from 1 piston caliper to 2 piston i would also think u would have too upgrade the master cylinder also?

does it push the same amount of fluid/pressure ?
has anybody checked?

and i wouldnt buy used brake parts from ebay or other wise... most states its illegal..

u can probably get reman from napa just has cheap...
or an outfit called ohio caliper sells really good kits as well

your .02 is worth .01

there is nothing illegal with use brake parts and to no you do not have to change the master cylinder because there is no upgrade for it.

[piggylover1985]

ok, i order the new slotted rotors and ceramic pads and ...used calipers, yeah i know, the price for new calipers is $180 for reman, i got a set from ebay for 49.99, cross my fingers, the seller has 100% feedback, that is a plus sign. i'll let you guys know how the brakes conversion come out for me okie,
thanx guys

[jonbonazza]

ok, i order the new slotted rotors and ceramic pads and ...used calipers, yeah i know, the price for new calipers is $180 for reman, i got a set from ebay for 49.99, cross my fingers, the seller has 100% feedback, that is a plus sign. i'll let you guys know how the brakes conversion come out for me okie,
thanx guys

Nice! What rotors and pads did you go with? Have the calipers powdercoated man! JNZ Finishing does an awsome job for affordable price, as does tirado custom coatings (TCC). Send them an email to check prices!

I really need to do this... If I can get my freakin' tail lights to sell, this might be my next endeavor!

[piggylover1985]

Nice! What rotors and pads did you go with? Have the calipers powdercoated man! JNZ Finishing does an awsome job for affordable price, as does tirado custom coatings (TCC). Send them an email to check prices!

I really need to do this... If I can get my freakin' tail lights to sell, this might be my next endeavor!

i bought a set of ceramic pads and cross drill/slotted rotors, and with the 2 piston calipers from the 3kgt, i think the stopping distance should be improve big time. i'll let you guys know.

[jonbonazza]

i bought a set of ceramic pads and cross drill/slotted rotors, and with the 2 piston calipers from the 3kgt, i think the stopping distance should be improve big time. i'll let you guys know.

I mean like which exact pads and rotors did you go with?

And quick question:
Are the 3kgt SL (FWD) calipers 2-piston?

[4G63Attack]

I mean like which exact pads and rotors did you go with?

And quick question:
Are the 3kgt SL (FWD) calipers 2-piston?

as long as they are none turbo. and yes they are twin piston don't for get that the galant and diamante

[jonbonazza]

as long as they are none turbo. and yes they are twin piston don't for get that the galant and diamante

Well, I have a FWD eclipse, so I have to find calipers off of a FWD car, and correct me if I am wrong, but the calipers on the FWD galant (non-4g63) will not work with the eclipse, right?

I think I will go with the 3kgt SL calipers as they will have less miles for one, and two they will be easier to find.

[4G63Attack]

Well, I have a FWD eclipse, so I have to find calipers off of a FWD car, and correct me if I am wrong, but the calipers on the FWD galant (non-4g63) will not work with the eclipse, right?

I think I will go with the 3kgt SL calipers as they will have less miles for one, and two they will be easier to find.

i have never seen the calipers off from the 1.8 cars so i don't know if its going to work or not.

the 2 piston calipers are use in 3000gt (base and sl), Galant and diamante. will work in the eclipse single piston.

the only thing that you have to watch out for is the type of brake lines are used. there is the screw in type and the ball and joint type. other then that; is the only difference

[BigJohnson9796]

does the 3kgt tt have two piston calipers also or they got more? Wouldn they fit on the eclipse also?

[4G63Attack]

does the 3kgt tt have two piston calipers also or they got more? Wouldn they fit on the eclipse also?

no its 4 pistons they will not fit under the eclipse stock mounting points. you will have to get a bracket and bigger rims to make them fit

[BigJohnson9796]

im sure my 18s would fit but what bracket would you need? It would be interstin to attempt. Would the rotors fit?

[piggylover1985]

no its 4 pistons they will not fit under the eclipse stock mounting points. you will have to get a bracket and bigger rims to make them fit

watch for the off set for the wheels too, the TT calipers are much bigger, i can't use my 18" wheels on my non turbo Stealth to fit in a Turbo Stealth either, and that's with the shim on it too.

[jonbonazza]

On an eclipse, to use the VR4 (TT) calipers, you have to have a custom bracket made (unless you cna find a retailer that sells them. I haven't been so lucky), Rotors made for the VR4, pads made for the VR4 and AT LEAST 17" wheels. On the FWD (N/A) 3s, this info may be differnet, but this is what is required for an eclipse.

As for the 1.8. I know for a fact that the 3000GT SL 2-piston calipers work, so I assume the galant and diamante's will work also.

[BigJohnson9796]

Any one got a pic of the brackets I would need?

[piggylover1985]

thanks guys for all the help, i installed the new/upgrade brakes for my 91 TSI,
new cross drilled/slotted rotors, ceramic pads $130, used 3000gt calipers, brakets, all hardwares $70, so for $200, 45 minutes to install, the brakes improve big time, i don't know how to upload the pictures, but if any one curious see it, i can email the pix, thanx

[jonbonazza]

thanks guys for all the help, i installed the new/upgrade brakes for my 91 TSI,
new cross drilled/slotted rotors, ceramic pads $130, used 3000gt calipers, brakets, all hardwares $70, so for $200, 45 minutes to install, the brakes improve big time, i don't know how to upload the pictures, but if any one curious see it, i can email the pix, thanx

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