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> 97 Montero Ls Trans Oil Capacity After Filter Change, manual says 8.5 Litres?
zonarosso
post Oct 10 2009, 09:11 AM
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I changed the trans filter on my 97 Montero full size and it seems that the recommended oil amount causes over filling. Anyone gone through this? I put about 5 1/2 quarts in and it's up on the dipstick.
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post Oct 10 2009, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE (zonarosso @ Oct 10 2009, 10:11 PM) *
I changed the trans filter on my 97 Montero full size and it seems that the recommended oil amount causes over filling. Anyone gone through this? I put about 5 1/2 quarts in and it's up on the dipstick.


Hi there

You must be driving either the 2800 or the 3500 Montero with an auto tranny to require this capacity. The Manual trans uses only 3.7 liters. I believe the volume indicated that you have not fully drained out the oil left in the pipes and cooler coils.

I have changed mine a coupla times before. Just drain the oil, then tighten the sump nut. Refill thru' the dipstick (transmission's!) using a funnel with a suitable tube until oil overflows thru' the weep hole next to the sump. DO NOT OVERFILL.

- To check for the oil level, drive around to warm up the engine.
- Park on level surface
- With engine idling, depress the brakes and move the tranny lever thru' all positions (P to L), stopping momentarily at each position.
- Move lever to N.
- Remove dipstick and wipe clean.
- The fluid level should always be between the two marks on the dipstick.

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Always use "DIA QUEEN ATF-SP", or "ATF DEXRON II" automatic transmission fluid when replinishing. I sometimes top up or replenish with X-1R Auto Trans oil. No complains so far.
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Thanks Nur for the reply,
It is indeed a 3.5 Liter. I drained the fluid again today and carefully added fluid until it was up to the 'full cold' mark. It took about 3.5 liters of Dexron 3. What confused me was the manual specifically saying 8.5l 'drained'. I assumed that meant draining just the pan. In hind site i should have measured the amount that I removed instead of draining it into a large receptacle. Where is this 'weep hole' ??
Now if I can just figure out this cruise control thing! Thanks again Jim from Wisconsin,USA



QUOTE (Nur Othman @ Oct 10 2009, 11:24 AM) *
Hi there

You must be driving either the 2800 or the 3500 Montero with an auto tranny to require this capacity. The Manual trans uses only 3.7 liters. I believe the volume indicated that you have not fully drained out the oil left in the pipes and cooler coils.

I have changed mine a coupla times before. Just drain the oil, then tighten the sump nut. Refill thru' the dipstick (transmission's!) using a funnel with a suitable tube until oil overflows thru' the weep hole next to the sump. DO NOT OVERFILL.

- To check for the oil level, drive around to warm up the engine.
- Park on level surface
- With engine idling, depress the brakes and move the tranny lever thru' all positions (P to L), stopping momentarily at each position.
- Move lever to N.
- Remove dipstick and wipe clean.
- The fluid level should always be between the two marks on the dipstick.

Note:
Always use "DIA QUEEN ATF-SP", or "ATF DEXRON II" automatic transmission fluid when replinishing. I sometimes top up or replenish with X-1R Auto Trans oil. No complains so far.

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quote name='zonarosso' date='Oct 11 2009, 03:42 AM' post='270105']
Where is this 'weep hole' ??
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Hi Jim

Here are some pix to show you the weep hole location.

Attached File  Tranny_Weep_Hole.JPG ( 73.68K ) Number of downloads: 8

Attached File  Tranny_Dipstick.JPG ( 78.58K ) Number of downloads: 4
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It took about 3.5 liters of Dexron 3.
Is this correct? I know for my 97 5-speed triptronic it took nearly 10 litres of fluid and the type is very specific
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Always use "DIA QUEEN ATF-SP", or "ATF DEXRON II"
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I did a complete drop and pressure flush including cooler & lines which was very important (and expensive). If you use anything else it will have catostrophic effects on the tranny. Some others have tried this on the forum and eventually had to replace thier tranny. Search a bit and read up some previous threads as maybe your model is different.

Jim
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QUOTE (Benckj @ Oct 12 2009, 06:14 AM) *
Is this correct? I know for my 97 5-speed triptronic it took nearly 10 litres of fluid and the type is very specific .

I did a complete drop and pressure flush including cooler & lines which was very important (and expensive). If you use anything else it will have catostrophic effects on the tranny. Some others have tried this on the forum and eventually had to replace thier tranny. Search a bit and read up some previous threads as maybe your model is different.

Jim


Hi Jim and Jim

The quoted oil types are from my User handbook, which is for my 1996 model. I suppose the Dexron III is a newer in term of higher boiling point and vaporisation, or is either fully synthetic or semi. In some countries, you'd find versions IID or IIE or even versions VI.

Just like the Brake fluid, which my manual says to use DOT 3 or 4, I have gone with DOT 5.5 or higher due to the higher temperature tolerance. This is useful especially if you use the brakes a lot going uphill or downhill.

My thinking is, use fully synthetic oils if you can find and afford them. You Pajero will love you for them.
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I ended up putting another quart in for a total of 4.5 qts after just draining the pan/changing the filter. My manual states that the correct oil for the Aisin transmission is Dexron 2 which was replaced with Dexron 3. No need for the Mitsubishi specific oil in this unit. The only snag in the whole process was having to remove the transmission crossmember to get the pan off. Two of the crossmember to frame bolts broke from corrosion so I had to heat them up and back them out with a locking pliers. Thanks for the great pictures! I really appreciate your effort- Next on the list is a timing belt,valve cover gaskets,and spark plugs! Cheers Jim
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