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[trini tuner]

Hey My gf is looking into the new 2.4 gts with cvt tranny ( she doesnt drive stick). I just have one question. whats the total hp output and fastest estimated track times i can get out of the car if i get every mod out for it minus the turbo kit?

im talking headers intake exhaust pulley piggy back etc.

its a toss up between this and yet another audi.... an A4 2.0t. this car would def cost a little more than the 2.4 but I do look at overall potential of a car not just te stock specs sheet. thanks

[NY-09GTS]

Looking at the dynos you can find for bolt-ons out there and adding them up, you prob could add 30-40 hp, a tune would help as well. Add nitrous and you can get another 30 hp easy. Can the cvt handle the added hp and torque is the question.

As for times, with the cvt, it's just a guess, but without boost you'd probably have a hard time getting out of the 15's, it runs 16's stock. Manual can get to 14's, but without boost or nitrous 13's are out for the manual.

[SimmoES]

Hey My gf is looking into the new 2.4 gts with cvt tranny ( she doesnt drive stick). I just have one question. whats the total hp output and fastest estimated track times i can get out of the car if i get every mod out for it minus the turbo kit?

im talking headers intake exhaust pulley piggy back etc.

its a toss up between this and yet another audi.... an A4 2.0t. this car would def cost a little more than the 2.4 but I do look at overall potential of a car not just te stock specs sheet. thanks

talking about total power output of 2.4 lancer vs 2.0t A4 is night and day. you can squeeze so much more out of an Audi. go to www.ecstuning.com and check out the part selection . The APR chip alone will boost your total output to 234hp/333lb torque. Thats more than slapping a turbo on 2.4 lancer will do. replace diverter valves with blow off valves, exhaust, intake, and that thing will fly.

feels weird praising another brand on a mitsu forum lol..

[KrUsHeR]

talking about total power output of 2.4 lancer vs 2.0t A4 is night and day. you can squeeze so much more out of an Audi. go to www.ecstuning.com and check out the part selection . The APR chip alone will boost your total output to 234hp/333lb torque. Thats more than slapping a turbo on 2.4 lancer will do. replace diverter valves with blow off valves, exhaust, intake, and that thing will fly.

feels weird praising another brand on a mitsu forum lol..

Those A4's are beasts waiting to be unleashed! Lots of potential.

[SimmoES]

Those A4's are beasts waiting to be unleashed! Lots of potential.

i second that. their whole new lineup is crazy. germans are finally coming back with vengence, for a few years there they slacked in performance and overall appearance and quality of cars.. Now with the new lineup of Benz, Audi and BMW there is once again a separation between Men (germans) and Boys (jap. luxury cars) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grin.gif)

[KrUsHeR]

i second that. their whole new lineup is crazy. germans are finally coming back with vengence, for a few years there they slacked in performance and overall appearance and quality of cars.. Now with the new lineup of Benz, Audi and BMW there is once again a separation between Men (germans) and Boys (jap. luxury cars) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grin.gif)

I am not to up-to-date on Benz, but I can tell you Audi and BMW are doing GREAT things! My neighbour just bought a new M3... All I have to say about it is, WOW!!

[NY-09GTS]

i second that. their whole new lineup is crazy. germans are finally coming back with vengence, for a few years there they slacked in performance and overall appearance and quality of cars.. Now with the new lineup of Benz, Audi and BMW there is once again a separation between Men (germans) and Boys (jap. luxury cars) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grin.gif)

Come on Simmo, don't even tell me your slamming on my favorite line of cars...... Lexus. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bwekk.gif)
The IS and the LS are sweet. Their new 416 hp, 8 speed ISF is awesome. And the brand new 552 hp, 0-60 in 3.6 sec, and 202 mph top speed Lexus LFA is one bad a$$ ride. Definitely not a boys car, only men allowed, lol. I don't know of any German car hanging with that.

[KrUsHeR]

Come on Simmo, don't even tell me your slamming on my favorite line of cars...... Lexus. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bwekk.gif)
The IS and the LS are sweet. Their new 416 hp, 8 speed ISF is awesome. And the brand new 552 hp, 0-60 in 3.6 sec, and 202 mph top speed Lexus LFA is one bad a$$ ride. Definitely not a boys car, only men allowed, lol. I don't know of any German car hanging with that.

You are right, they are not boys cars... They are way to expensive and boys could never afford one. A lot of men can't even afford them... Lexus has a lot of good habbits aquired from its counter part too, Toyota. They are one of the only car companies that actually knows what they are doing, lol.

[SimmoES]

Come on Simmo, don't even tell me your slamming on my favorite line of cars...... Lexus. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bwekk.gif)
The IS and the LS are sweet. Their new 416 hp, 8 speed ISF is awesome. And the brand new 552 hp, 0-60 in 3.6 sec, and 202 mph top speed Lexus LFA is one bad a$$ ride. Definitely not a boys car, only men allowed, lol. I don't know of any German car hanging with that.

The only problem i have with Lexus - its still a toyota. Acura is still a honda.. And infiniti is still a nissan. something about paying premium $$$ for a glorified jap car doesnt seem right for me.. But to each their own, dont get me wrong they are GREAT cars in all aspects.

Technology wise, Lexus will always be a step or two behind Germans. Take their 8 speed transmission on LS model - COMMON - how ironically they came out with that 8spd a year after Benz came out with first ever 7spd tranny on production sedan.

As of Lexus LFA - while Lexus is just now coming out with a "supercar" class vehicle - Benz had McLaren in their pocket for decades. As of current cars, take SLR McLaren Stirling Moss - its still a production car, pushing 650hp top speed 220mph BOOYAH!
The whole concept of "F" class for Lexus, is such a knock off of "M" class for BMW, "S" class for Audi and "AMG" for Benz which all have existed for decades.

oh and to hang with your LFA, i already named one - SLR McLaren and here's another for $hits and giggles... Bugatti Veyron (now owned by VW/AUDI) though its not a production car, you didn't specify it had to be lol. 1001 horsepower, 922lb trg W16 engine with AWD... 233mph top speed with roof open and 253 with roof closed - 0-60 in 2.7 seconds. Bugatti's have been alive for almost 100 years and dominated thousands of races (yep thousands).

(man we should meet up at a bar and discuss this subject over a bottle of Tequila)

You are right, they are not boys cars... They are way to expensive and boys could never afford one. A lot of men can't even afford them...

common you know what i mean.. i didnt mean literally high school kid's car like honda civic (LOL)

bottom line (my personal opinion) Lexus is more of a "class" car (excluding their F line) where german cars represent a lifestyle. You gotta keep in mind, US only imports 25% of available models from each german company.. In Europe, you can get a 5 series and eve 7 series beemers with a manual tranny - it screams 'im rich, but i still know how to have fun". lol where the hell you gonna find Lexus LS with manual? that car screams " im a lazy rich guy and i make a lot of money off other people's ideas" hahaha

[KrUsHeR]

bottom line (my personal opinion) Lexus is more of a "class" car (excluding their F line) where german cars represent a lifestyle. You gotta keep in mind, US only imports 25% of available models from each german company.. In Europe, you can get a 5 series and eve 7 series beemers with a manual tranny - it screams 'im rich, but i still know how to have fun". lol where the hell you gonna find Lexus LS with manual? that car screams " im a lazy rich guy and i make a lot of money off other people's ideas" hahaha

Agreed! I hate rich lazy people! LOL

[NY-09GTS]

Simmo, your killing me, lol. Ok, you make a good point. I agree Lexus is still a toyota. Acura is still a honda.. And infiniti is still a nissan. But, imo, a honda or nissan doesn't compare to toyota's quality and heck I'll even though in the affordable german cars too, volkswagon, opel, and their brief Chrysler years, toyota beats them in quality imo. I've had 2 toyota's in my life and I can honestly say they were the best built cars I have ever owned. Performance wise, toyota doesn't really cut it right now, but I guess that's what the lexus line is for.
And ya the four stroke engine was invented in Germany, but the japs perfected it.

I hear ya about benz, but wasn't it until just recently where they introduced a car that a normal person could afford. Lexus has had the IS for a while and it's in the same price range as an EVO. You don't need to be rich to get an IS 250, of course it's only 204 hp, but affordable. And toyota had the 8 speed just waiting to go long before the benz 7 speed, they just waited untill the 7 speed came out so they could show benz up, lol. kidding.

Ya Lexus is late to the supercar class that's true. I actually forgot about the McLaren and the Bugatti. In the last need for speed game I played I had both cars, they were awesome in the game. I just read an article about the LFA and I was impressed. When you see it, it doesn't look like a exotic supercar, like say a mclaren does, it looks like a real car we could all get someday (even though I know we cant afford one). That's one thing I really liked about it, it looks like a common mans supercar. I guess closest thing I could describe is a GTR.
I think the German car lover in you is just scared of the new kid on the block. haha BTW - no LS with a manual, but the IS has a manual.

And I'm down.... a bottle of Tequila (one of my favs) and the chance to debate cars with you, sounds good to me.

[KrUsHeR]

mmm... Tequila...

Personally for supercars, can't beat Italian... Ferrari, Lamborghini, Pagani. Those are my favs!! Especially FERRARI!!!!!

[SimmoES]

I think the German car lover in you is just scared of the new kid on the block. haha BTW - no LS with a manual, but the IS has a manual.

And I'm down.... a bottle of Tequila (one of my favs) and the chance to debate cars with you, sounds good to me.

IS is a different class though.. i was talking about large sedans.. comparing LS to 7 series BMW.. the 7, though full of luxury and comfort, can come in 6spd manual with sport package, where as LS just offers auto.

fyi, i dont consider VW a german beauty.. for God's sake, half of them are built in Mexico lol

And again, i do like toyota, trust me, i've owned corola station wagon, camry, mr2 and scion and wouldnt think twice about buying another one down the road, i just disagree with Lexus concept. Look at Hyundai.. They came out with Genesis sedan and coupe under their own banner. They didnt create another brand for those 2 models just because they belong to a totally different class. You dont see BMW or Benz coming out with an Economy brand cars?

To me personally, 1980s E86 corolla has more value than lexus ISF. E86 is a legend.. ISF is - hey my daddy makes millions and he bought me this car so i can pickup college girls even though im still in high school.... or.... i just graduated from medical university and just started making 100K+ i have no time for real relationships, so i drive ISF to pickup hot chicks for one night standers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (sadly i have a friend who fits this category)

p.s. just came back from a bar, had a few shots of 1800 tequila (IMG:style_emoticons/default/gunsmilie.gif)

mmm... Tequila...

Personally for supercars, can't beat Italian... Ferrari, Lamborghini, Pagani. Those are my favs!! Especially FERRARI!!!!!

bugatti will own any italian car, any day. But if you take bugatti out of the list, yes italians dominate the supercar list.
I also admire Spyker C8 - dutch car.

[KrUsHeR]

bugatti will own any italian car, any day. But if you take bugatti out of the list, yes italians dominate the supercar list.
I also admire Spyker C8 - dutch car.

The Veyron is at the top of my list too! Something about a W16, 1001hp quad turbo car w/ 10 radiators (one of which is for the freakin' spoiler) and a top speed of 253mph... Man can that friggin' thing can move!

Funny how the same company owns both Bugatti and Lamborghini hey... Volkwagon of all companies!!! Thankfully even though they own them, I don't believe they exercise any creative control on the Bugatti and Lambo vehicles...

Oh, forgot about this one, she is faster than the Veyron!! Shelby Super Cars (SSC) Ultimate Aero. Holy crap!
http://www.thesupercars.org/ssc-aero/2009-ssc-ultimate-aero/

[trini tuner]

dont forget VW's rescent overthrow of porche... shocking when i found out but its true. seems like that auto group is doing something right in order to aquire these assets or the other companies are doing things horribly wrong. either way porche is now a part of vw/audi and there are talks about a high volume production car and imo i dont agree with it.

[EMC 3000gt]

I can't tell you how many Audis come back to the Dealership on a roll back. Stay away.

[trini tuner]

I can't tell you how many Audis come back to the Dealership on a roll back. Stay away.

whats a rollback? is that like the savings gimick from walmart?? j/k but really whats a rollback? like a recall?

[EMC 3000gt]

Flat bed truck. You CAN NOT TOW an Audi because of the AWD system.

[SimmoES]

I can't tell you how many Audis come back to the Dealership on a roll back. Stay away.

Audi had some bad years with reliability but 90% of the problems are in specific areas only.. for example, the 2001-2004 2.7 A6 had the turbo problems along with the frond end and suspension issues - both problems would surface up after 60K miles - other than that it was a solid car. In recent years however, they have greatly improved their reliability.

[NY-09GTS]

IS is a different class though.. i was talking about large sedans.. comparing LS to 7 series BMW.. the 7, though full of luxury and comfort, can come in 6spd manual with sport package, where as LS just offers auto.

fyi, i dont consider VW a german beauty.. for God's sake, half of them are built in Mexico lol

And again, i do like toyota, trust me, i've owned corola station wagon, camry, mr2 and scion and wouldnt think twice about buying another one down the road, i just disagree with Lexus concept. Look at Hyundai.. They came out with Genesis sedan and coupe under their own banner. They didnt create another brand for those 2 models just because they belong to a totally different class. You dont see BMW or Benz coming out with an Economy brand cars?

To me personally, 1980s E86 corolla has more value than lexus ISF. E86 is a legend.. ISF is - hey my daddy makes millions and he bought me this car so i can pickup college girls even though im still in high school.... or.... i just graduated from medical university and just started making 100K+ i have no time for real relationships, so i drive ISF to pickup hot chicks for one night standers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (sadly i have a friend who fits this category)

p.s. just came back from a bar, had a few shots of 1800 tequila (IMG:style_emoticons/default/gunsmilie.gif)

bugatti will own any italian car, any day. But if you take bugatti out of the list, yes italians dominate the supercar list.
I also admire Spyker C8 - dutch car.

Ok, ya a manual LS would be nice, I guess they probably don't offer one because when some people get older they become lame and don't want to shift and there probably aren't many young people buying an LS. It is nice that BMW doesn't feed into that thinking.

I see what your saying about the Lexus concept, they could of just kept it all under the Toyota name. I had a Solara for a few years, it was a top of the line model, and it was essentially the same thing as a Lexus ES, didn't make sense to have almost the same car under two different brand names. I see your point about Lexus being a "class" car, but at the same time I think if you've worked hard in your life and became successful what's wrong with showing it off a bit. It's not saying I'm better than you, it's saying this is what hard work can get you, where a Toyota doesn't say that because, well, pretty much anyone can buy a Toyota, but not everyone can buy a Lexus. Maybe that's the reason they have two brands. If Toyota can create the thinking of a better brand of car by having a different name and it might give young kids something to work hard for, I don't see that as a bad thing. But ya I agree, I hate the rich kid who's dad bought him a Lexus, or the wanna be player who thinks he can trick people into thinking he's successful, but those types are probably the minority of Lexus owners (at least I hope they are - I hate seeing people who don't do anything and get things they don't deserve). And I guess you can add the people who buy a used Lexus for 10-15k and think there succesful and doing well, that's lame too. Talking new cars, my point is sometimes having higher class of a product isn't necessarily a bad thing, I think in most cases it good because it gives people something to work hard towards. Whether or not they need a different name for that brand, well we could debate that forever, lol.

You know the funny thing about this conversation is that as much as I like Lexus, BMW, and all the other luxury cars and that I think it's a nice reward for yourself when you've become successful in life, I would never buy one. Not that I can't afford one, I just wouldn't buy one because I think it's dumb to spend 35-40k+ on a car. I have better things to spend my money on. I'd rather buy an 18k lancer and then mod it out.

Nice, 1800 is the best tequila there is. I like the 1800 select sliver (black label) and also Cuervo black.