Your Stupid Health Care System Options

[roughneckeyad]

This is for you fellow "americans"
Now I hope i'm not coming across as a biggot or a racist. I like you guys and thats why i'm here. Now I have lived in 4 different countries in 3 different continents for atleast 4 years each, except for the United States, thats my third year here. Needless to say i have visited at least 15 different countries in this world, a lot of which are third-world countries. Now, most of you should know that this is the only country in the world that doesnt not have "socialistic" medicine, or what free and universal health care of some sort, and I know a lot of you guys take pride in that. I have been through enough of the medical system in america to basicaly complain, but today, i was very surprised. I had to take my gf to the emergency room, she is uninsured because she is unemployed and a student. Forget about the money part. We've complained enough about that. I just wanted you all ignorant people to know, that you should be ashamed of yourself for defending the worst worst health care system that i have experienced in my whole life. I have been in hospitals in West africa that had 1000 times better service that this place. I didnt take her to a over crowded hospital or a bad one, matter of fact one of the most reputable ones in the area. We had to wait 4 hours before she got admited. The nurses made me walk for 3 minutes to get a wheel chair. She had to sign over 5 different papers, before they admited her.. i had to run back to my car to get her I.D before she got in.. and as soon as she was injected with a pain reliever, another person came with more paper work. We had to meet with a financial counselor before she even got a "Get well". You people should be ashamed of your system. Yeah, you can always say that we had one bad experience. No, i never had a good one, this one was just terrible. But lets put aside the wait, and the attitude.. How can you make people sign papers and ask them about their address, social security number when she was in so much pain.. I almost punched the front desk guy, no wonder they had more security than doctors. Your health care system is pathetic, and you should do something about it, and you can start by shutting the fuck up when someone who has better experience tell you what a terrible system you have. We're not trying to put you down, we want you to open your minds up so you can have a better quality of life.

[dannwo1]

When I broke two bones my arm (from a slip and slide accident LOL) I drove myself to the hospital because I didn't want to pay for the ambulance. Once I got there I too had to sign a stack full of papers and sit in a waiting room for a few hours before a nurse (never mind a doctor) even took my info. Lucky my (left) arm was broken or all those signatures would've been alot harder. Shifting gears would've been harder too.

The problem is that the system works good enough for people that have good jobs and are working full time. I have a shit job at wal-mart working part time and i'm going to college so i'm pretty much screwed along with a growing population of Americans.

I'm not a fan of the new healthcare plan, but i'd rather have that then what we have now.

Although Michael Moore pisses me off more often than not with his stubborn and childish antics, the movie "Sicko " really opened my eyes to this problem.

[bobthecow]

The only way this will ever work is if we raise taxes, and Americans will never want to pay more taxes.

Even then, raising taxes won't help any, because people find every way possible to avoid paying them. My parents try to eek every single penny they can out of their tax forms.

If we sat at a flat tax of 20%... or even just 15%, no exceptions, no exemptions, then we would be set for any kind of social programs in the future. Multi-billion dollar industry, 20%. Guy working for wal-mart barely making 5 figures, 20%. Guy at a desk with a 6 figure job, 20%.

[roughneckeyad]

The only way this will ever work is if we raise taxes, and Americans will never want to pay more taxes.

Even then, raising taxes won't help any, because people find every way possible to avoid paying them. My parents try to eek every single penny they can out of their tax forms.

If we sat at a flat tax of 20%... or even just 15%, no exceptions, no exemptions, then we would be set for any kind of social programs in the future. Multi-billion dollar industry, 20%. Guy working for wal-mart barely making 5 figures, 20%. Guy at a desk with a 6 figure job, 20%.

Yeah i agree.. Id gladly pay more taxes for a good health care system. Its a basic need, i can think of anything worst.. if anything happens to me or a dear one and theres nothing we can do about it.. I suffer enough and i am insured. My copays are ridiculus and my dental plan only covers up to a certain amount. I mean, 20% of 10,000 is a lot of money.
but you know something, doctors should not earn as much as they do here, hospitals should not charge 200 dollars for doing a urine test. Maybe then insurance companies will not have to pay 10,000 for a tiny shit operation, and they can start charging less poor people who cant afford a 150 dollar premium. ANd there should be a law about having them COVER the preexisting conditions. I feel bad for people who have diabetes and many other diseases and cant get insurance.