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 Feb 13 2006, 06:12 PM
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sorry about the bitching last post but i had some drinks before that... i tend to be a lil angry when im drunk, lol anyway you wont "destroy" the lighting system or ballasts by putting in hids, my friend graduated from metro auto electronics school and i asked him about all this, he is the one who helped me install them
ways to fix that is one, you must either always have your lights on, or if you get the kind of kit i got which is a low beam only h13 bulb you can turn the high beam on and u get no light at all but you must still have the light switch turned all the way on
second you can get a relay off of ebay i have seen them, for about $30 which will let you turn your lights on and off as normal
and the "rediculous blue light bulbs" that you speak of work fine with the cars, i had them in every car i had and not once did anything go wrong with them,
once again just my 2 cents
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Feb 13 2006, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE(g00s3y @ Feb 13 2006, 06:12 PM) sorry about the bitching last post but i had some drinks before that... i tend to be a lil angry when im drunk, lol anyway you wont "destroy" the lighting system or ballasts by putting in hids, my friend graduated from metro auto electronics school and i asked him about all this, he is the one who helped me install them
actually, if you just install them where the factory bulb goes on a 4th gen eclipse without anything else, you WILL wreck them. Why? because the lights are duty-cycled at 80 percent of full power all the time for the DRLs. that WILL destroy the ballasts. thats goes for all mitsus with DRLs. QUOTE and the "rediculous blue light bulbs" that you speak of work fine with the cars, i had them in every car i had and not once did anything go wrong with them,
once again just my 2 cents
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first, they look silly. Ill like to call them "poser" bulbs for people that want others to think they have HIDs in their car. Second, most are far overrated for the car. 55-60 watts is stock, but a lot of these aftermarket bulbs crank that up to 75-80 watts for more light. That will melt things in short order. you can indeed get brighter bulbs that are still rated at the correct wattage. But for the most part, the cheap things sold on ebay are basically junk. But hey, dont listen to me.. Ive only been a Mitsu tech for 15 years.
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Feb 14 2006, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE(manybrews @ Feb 14 2006, 12:06 AM) actually, if you just install them where the factory bulb goes on a 4th gen eclipse without anything else, you WILL wreck them.
Why? because the lights are duty-cycled at 80 percent of full power all the time for the DRLs. that WILL destroy the ballasts.
thats goes for all mitsus with DRLs.
yes that would be true, but i have the light switch fully on all the time, lights and parking lights on all the time, when i want to turn my hid's off, i flick the high beam switch and they turn off cause i only have the 2 wires going to the hid the low beam power and ground, if i was to turn my light switch to the parking lights only or completly of then yes i would me messing up the whole system, but i dont do that QUOTE first, they look silly. Ill like to call them "poser" bulbs for people that want others to think they have HIDs in their car.
Second, most are far overrated for the car. 55-60 watts is stock, but a lot of these aftermarket bulbs crank that up to 75-80 watts for more light.
That will melt things in short order.
you can indeed get brighter bulbs that are still rated at the correct wattage.
But for the most part, the cheap things sold on ebay are basically junk.
But hey, dont listen to me.. Ive only been a Mitsu tech for 15 years.
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they may look silly but some people, including me at the time, dont have the money to get the hid conversion kit, and yes the ones that are rated 75 watts and up are stupid to get, there is no need to change around the whole electrical system just to get a lil bit brighter light that still isnt anywhere close to hid, and thank you for agreeing with me, that the cheap ebay brand stuff is junk, plain and simple just woke up so spelling and some things ma be very confusing... lol
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Feb 22 2006, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE(g00s3y @ Feb 13 2006, 06:12 PM) sorry about the bitching last post but i had some drinks before that... i tend to be a lil angry when im drunk, lol anyway you wont "destroy" the lighting system or ballasts by putting in hids, my friend graduated from metro auto electronics school and i asked him about all this, he is the one who helped me install them
ways to fix that is one, you must either always have your lights on, or if you get the kind of kit i got which is a low beam only h13 bulb you can turn the high beam on and u get no light at all but you must still have the light switch turned all the way on
second you can get a relay off of ebay i have seen them, for about $30 which will let you turn your lights on and off as normal
and the "rediculous blue light bulbs" that you speak of work fine with the cars, i had them in every car i had and not once did anything go wrong with them,
once again just my 2 cents
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No problem about the drunk thing. Any person that can apologize for bitching whether it be online or not is a good person in my book.
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Feb 23 2006, 08:58 PM
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although i can apreciate politeness and forgivness and all, but can we get back to the topic? is it save to put "poser" H13 light bulbs with no more watt than recommended by manual?
btw, i am not a poser by all means, i just don't like the yellow light and would like to change it for cooler color (is in cold) i don't care about luxury cars and their light system, i bought my eclipse because it was best bang for the money and design is nice. i thought about getting bmw3, but refuse to pay for the car more than 30 grand. 1 i won't be able to use the advantages of such machine, 2 the way people drive here it would be a shame to fubar great piece of german engineering.
manybrews,
let me ask you as a professional. if you had to do it for the client, what bulbs would you recommend?
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Feb 23 2006, 09:08 PM
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why there separate bulbs for high and low beams? does it mean that i won't be able to switch if i buy these? thanks. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI..._Pr4_PcY_BIN_IT
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Feb 26 2006, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(schtuka @ Feb 23 2006, 08:58 PM) let me ask you as a professional. if you had to do it for the client, what bulbs would you recommend?
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the only alternative light bulb i recommend is the sylvania silverstar. http://www.sylvania.com/ConsumerProducts/A...tar/default.htmfactory wattage, yet brighter than stock. but on todays cars, a bone stock halogen is quite bright.
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 Feb 28 2006, 10:46 AM
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I am too lazy to read thru this thread but all i can say is my main belief of anyone that installs an "Hid Kit" is a putz. You are taking the lazy route and jeapordizing other drivers because you are installing in to a halogen housing. a proper HID install uses projectors to focus the light and create a cutoff so that at a certain height there is no light to blind on coming traffic. and to all the ricers, the higher the color the shittier the output. All cars on the road come with 4300K and if not they are only a few hundred kelvins off. a proper HID install Will void your warranty. to read how to do a proper install on www.HIDPlanet.com/forums if you use their site allot remember to donate as they don't have too much money running around there but they are a good informative site My install, BTW I am on a hill so its angled. (IMG: http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/2476/wallshot2tp.jpg)
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