Any suggestions? I'm clueless to the matter.

Im quiet sure its wired with the ignition system, but why would you want to get rid of it?

because you are unable to turn off the lights if you get hid's installed that is one reason that i know of, plus there really is no need for lights to be on during the daytime either... just how i feel about it

The whole purpose of day-time running lights is more visibility.

In Michigan you get a discount on your insurance if you have them on your car.

you have less of a chance of getting into a accident with daytime running lights on.... I know people that used to drive around with their headlights on during the day before this feature came built into cars



source : http://www.sav-a-life.com/Drl_intro.htm

and now you know ;)

Well, idealy, I'd love to install a sort of killswitch for it. Daytime running lights are a great feature, and I can see benefits of using them. But it's not something I'd want in continuous action. Basically, I want to be in control of my lights.

I agree, anyway to disable them?

you can probably disconect the wire running to the ebrake and make it think it is on still cause the lights dont come on till the ebake is released

I haven't taken a look yet, but that sounds like a good starting place. I wonder if I can thread the wire out from under the ebrake into the car, find a suitable spot, and solder on a sort of switch to turn daytime running lights on.

Hell, I wonder if they'll remain off if my ebrake is slightly raised...enough for the warning light to appear. Not to say I'd drive around that haha, just speculating.

disabling the lights it stupid.
The same silly arguments were made over seatbelts when they were introduced. "they dont really do anything."

installing HID lights in any car not fitted with them from the factory is illegal, anyway.
the lights are duty cycled by the front ECU at 80 percent of full luminescence. its completely solid state controls.
can it be done? sure, if you wanna hack up a brand new car.

So it's controlled by the ECU? Hmm. Alright. I'm surprised it's at 80%...looks dimmer to me. Still, I wonder what the setup on the emergency brake looks like...the job sounds feasible.

Listen, I never stated daytime running lights are useless. They're a great feature. That's why I want them as a controlled option, rather than fully disabling them. Also, on a side note...I don't particularly care about the legality of HIDs (or even installing them for that matter) and I respect my seatbelt fully.

I would like to disable my running lights due to the fact that I take a ferry boat to work everyday, and every morning when I pull onto the boat, I blind the ferry worker. They have huge signs posted that say "Turn off headlights" and I look like an **** because mine are on.

if anyone finds a way to control these, I'd love to hear it.

LOL yeah ok seat belts don't do anything... what part of your **** did you pull that from...

oh yeah btw you don't have to "hack up" a brand new car, check it out

http://club4geclipse.com/fortopic9913.html

I cant stand people like you that don't know anything, if you have nothing good to contribute to the board and other members, then please keep your mouth shut. Thank you and good night ladies and gentlemen.

btw drl's really don't do anything, if you cant see a car in the daytime without its lights on, then you shouldn't be driving in the first place. :amen:

you, sir, are an ****. And an obviously young one at that, as seatbelts were in fact panned when introduced as people actually believed the installation of them implied the car was less safe to drive than cars without.
I cant stand people like you that somehow think that they are void of statistics which PROVE that DRLs are effective.
"4. How effective are DRLs? Nearly all published reports indicate DRLs reduce multiple-vehicle daytime crashes. Evidence about DRL effects on crashes comes from studies conducted in Scandinavia, Canada, and the United States. A study examining the effect of Norway's DRL law from 1980 to 1990 found a 10 percent decline in daytime multiple-vehicle crashes. A Danish study reported a 7 percent reduction in DRL-relevant crashes in the first 15 months after DRL use was required and a 37 percent decline in left-turn crashes. In a second study covering 2 years and 9 months of Denmark's law, there was a 6 percent reduction in daytime multiple-vehicle crashes and a 34 percent reduction in left-turn crashes. A 1994 Transport Canada study comparing 1990 model year vehicles with DRLs to 1989 vehicles without them found that DRLs reduced relevant daytime multiple-vehicle crashes by 11 percent.

In the United States, a 1985 Institute study determined that commercial fleet passenger vehicles modified to operate with DRLs were involved in 7 percent fewer daytime multiple-vehicle crashes than similar vehicles without DRLs. A small-scale fleet study conducted in the 1960s found an 18 percent lower daytime multiple-vehicle crash rate for DRL-equipped vehicles. Multiple-vehicle daytime crashes account for about half of all police-reported crashes in the United States. A 2002 Institute study reported a 3 percent decline in daytime multiple-vehicle crash risk in nine US states concurrent with the introduction of DRLs. Federal researchers, using data collected nationwide, concluded that there was a 5 percent decline in daytime, two-vehicle, opposite-direction crashes and a 12 percent decline in fatal crashes with pedestrians and bicyclists. "

one last thing.. ive forgotten more about mitsus than you'll ever know, so please keep YOUR comments to yourself and your ridiculous looking "Lambo" door eclipse.

if you are going to tell me that you cant see a bright orange car coming down the road in the day without its lights on, you shouldn't be behind the wheel. Yeah people BELIEVED the car was less safe because of them. You ever see a study between the amount of people who have their lives saved because of a seatbelt, compared to ones who don't wear it. I dont care what some **** study says... if you cant see a ******* car IN THE DAYTIME without its headlights on, but can somehow miraculously see it when they are partly on YOU SHOULDN'T be driving in the first place. BTW you being a mitsu tech means nothing to me. The mitsu "tech" at my dealer was telling me about how the 4g's have different "suspension" packages and that is why they look lower in pictures online, about how the 08 eclipse might be turbo (LOL yeah ok), and more **** then the running of the bulls produces. You mitsu tech's are some of the worst people in the world to deal with. Back to my point can't see a car in the day without lights, get the **** off the road.


here read this

http://club4geclipse.com/fortopic9202.html

shows just how "smart" you tech guys are

btw thank you for noticing my ridiculous car, it has won a few "ridiculous" awards for looking like that.

EDIT
-noticed another thing



you say that, yeah thats just the few that were published, the majority found no difference at all between drl and no drl...

I love how "smart" you are.. You apparently are completely immune to common sense, think that you are somehow different in regards to the way the world works, and also think you know something about cars.
you don't "care" about what some study says? Good. Keep that mind open like that. It will get you far in life.

you also don't seem to be able to understand what I meant when people "argue about the safety" in regards to seat belts and DRLs. I said the SAME ARGUMENT was made by morons when seat belts were introduced , similar to the argument about DRLs.. that they were useless. I did NOT say they were actually useless, but you apparently cant pick up on that.
The facts have been known for decades, which is why motorcycles have used DRLs since the late 70s.
Disabling them is idiotic.

and you won awards? for bolting on pieces? congradulations. nothing like "modding" a car using crap out of a catalog so it looks just like everyone elses. Let me guess as to what "mods" you have.
1)a cold air intake and/or new exhaust system (for that incredible 3-5 HP increase).
2)neon or LED lights splattered all over the car ('cause we want to be as much like the movies as possible).
3)rims.
4)painting the interior bizarre colors with some type of house paint.
5)5000 watts of power, because its important that all the neighbors hear your music.
6)lowering it.
7)HID light bulbs.

did I miss anything? Is there actually something on that car that you couldnt bolt on it that required original thinking? That would be refreshing after all the same crap Ive seen for a decade.

Man, I SOOO agree with you it isn't even funny.

People that think techs are dumb should really try looking at it from our point of view. I get dumb customers every day that have complaints that range from common sense to downright ridiculous. We had a guy who never changed his oil on his Quest minivan and wanted us to warranty the engine for it!

If you think techs are so dumb, then how come you don't work at a dealer? If you are that much smarter, maybe you should work on people's cars for a living. Did you ever think that maybe the tech was telling you a line of crap because he saw what you were driving? I have had independent guys ask me questions when they come in and pick up parts at my work and I give them all the wrong info because I don't want them taking work away from me and my coworkers.

By the way, hope you "tech wannabes" can fix newer cars. As of 2007, Nissans can only be diagnosed with our Consult III PC scan tool. It's a Panasonic Toughbook that has our scan tool program on it, and the older scan tools (OBDII generics, etc.) won't read the systems info!

Ok i don't work at a dealer cause i don't want to. I never said i was that much smarter, nor did i say i knew everything about every single car out there. Now let me see, you are telling people false information about a car and parts that they bought from your dealer. Now when they take your information and go with it, and something gets fucked up, who are they going to come back to... wow that makes you a very trustworthy person now doesn't it. Do you feel proud when someone comes in and they car is fucked because of advice that you told them that was incorrect?? Yea and i'm the dumb jackass... lol you wonder why people hate taking their car to the dealer, its because of people like you. Good job admitting that you work at a dealer and give people incorrect information about the car or parts.

I think this belongs in the fight forum as well.

I love the internet, everything thinks they are an expert.

I've been screwed over by more indepent repair shops than dealer service department. Actually, I've never been screwed over by a dealer service department.