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post Feb 6 2006, 06:08 PM
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hey i was wondering if this turbo kit would work on the car since it has the same motor a 4g94 minus the mivec head but do you think it would work and if i did it it would probably void ALL my warrentys right
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post Feb 6 2006, 06:33 PM
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I thought the 06 Eclipse GS has the 2.4L Mivec.

If you wanted to try a kit, I would think this kit would be a better match, since it's for a Ralliart (2.4L Mivec).

http://www.roadracemotorsports.com/ralliart.htm

And yes, it could be argued that a turbo kit would void your warranty, at least your engine and powertrain warranty. Everything else should still be covered.
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post Feb 22 2006, 01:43 AM
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I've considered a kit too but I think I'm going to wait at least a year just in case something happens with the car and I need to take it in. It sure would suck taking in a brand new car to have a problem fixed and being told no go on your warranty...
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post Feb 22 2006, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE(mfalik @ Feb 6 2006, 06:33 PM)
I thought the 06 Eclipse GS has the 2.4L Mivec. 

If you wanted to try a kit, I would think this kit would be a better match, since it's for a Ralliart (2.4L Mivec). 

http://www.roadracemotorsports.com/ralliart.htm

And yes, it could be argued that a turbo kit would void your warranty, at least your engine and powertrain warranty.  Everything else should still be covered.
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It does.

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It is the SAME engine as the Ralliart Lancer.

The turbo and manifold will bolt up, but everything else will have to be custom fabricated for obvious reasons, one being that the engine bay is different than the Lancer.

And, yes, it will void your warranty because it is directly affecting the engine. Most people who go turbo on a stock car do it because they don't need/care for the warranty and do the work themselves, anyway.
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post Feb 24 2006, 02:34 PM
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why is it that most superchargers only seem to be made for american cars?
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QUOTE(Kennyw83 @ Feb 24 2006, 03:34 PM)
why is it that most superchargers only seem to be made for american cars?
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You got me. That's the eternal question. Which is better, Supercharger or Turbo Charger. Both have advantages & Disadvantages.

If you want a supercharger, www.rippmods.com does superchargers for imports. Check their site and ask them when they are going to come out with a supercharger for the 4G Eclipse.
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post Feb 24 2006, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(Kennyw83 @ Feb 24 2006, 02:34 PM)
why is it that most superchargers only seem to be made for american cars?
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Superchargers make instant power but work off of the engine's torque. Since it is belt-driven, it takes power from the engine to run it. Most import compact cars (4 cylinders and SOME 6 cylinders) have less torque than horsepower, and torque is what gets the vehicle going. Take a '06 Civic Si for example, 197BHP and 133LB./FT. of torque. There is enough to get the car going, but not enough torque to spin a supercharger with a belt. Turbochargers; however, take the exhaust gasses to spin them. Since imports have higher horsepower than torque (again, MOST) it begins spinning the turbine at 2,000RPM or so when the horsepower rises and the torque falls off. This, my friends, is why you don't see many turbochargers on Domestic cars, and you don't see many superchargers on Imports.

Think of it this way, if you take a Grand Prix GTP and remove the supercharger, you have roughly 200HP. The supercharger that comes stock only puts out 5 or so psi, pretty weak because it's a Roots-style and works at only about 40% efficiency. Take that same super and put it on a Civic (please, no Honda jokes) and it doesn't produce enough power to move the belt, and therefore, the engine loses tremendous power. Conversely, take the turbocharger off of the Evo 9, which brings the Evo down to around 160HP give or take, and throw it on the GTP. You will experience a ton of turbo lag, but the power won't be as great as it was on the Evo. Of course, you will ALWAYS have cars that don't follow this example, but again, this is only an example. I hope this clears some things up for people.
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post Feb 24 2006, 09:30 PM
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okay, so with that said, which do you think would be better for 4g GT? It has a reasonably powerful V6. It seems like it falls in the middle of the spectrum.
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post Feb 25 2006, 12:23 AM
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I would honestly do a supercharger with the Mivec. The only problem is, I wouldn't try to custom fabricate anything, I would wait for a kit.
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post Feb 27 2006, 01:21 AM
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go witha turbo but here is why.

a super will give you better g/m time since it is contanst power. however
a turbo will give you power without replacing headers.
- you can get stock mpg if you dont gun it
- it doesnt dound likea dying pig
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post Feb 27 2006, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(Burninrubber @ Feb 27 2006, 01:21 AM)

a turbo will give you power without replacing headers.
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That part is wrong.

You need turbo manifolds which replace the stock headers. A supercharger will need an extra pulley and belts. Usually, they are very bolt-on and do not require any fabrication. A turbo will require changing a lot more than a supercharger.

I don't know what ones you have heard, but it doesn't sound like a dying pig.
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