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post Oct 13 2006, 06:03 PM
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Ok, my freind used to have a beater, now he has a Celica 2003ish

If its a GT that meants it has 1.8l that is 140hp, weighs about 2500lbs auto tranny no mods.

If its a GT-S that means its like 180hp. about same weight

I have a RS(2.4L) with a cold air intake, lowered. So its what like 147hp. Auto. I think it weights close to 3000lbs closer to 2900.

So, what do you think would happen, he was kidding and said he wants to race, not sure what type of Celica he has. I know that my freinds gotta 95 Celica with a 2.2 and I can do well playing around with him.

What do you guys think would happen, all in driving? Hes got the better power to weight ratio thats for sure, but wouldn't the 2.4 grab that horsepower much easier then the 1.8 struggling to get it? If its a GTS im sure im screwed!
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post Oct 14 2006, 01:25 AM
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If he has a GT you should destroy him utterly. He has to wait until he is at 5800RPM( i think) until he reaches his full power potential, and even then, his torque is so low that it wouldn't matter.

If it is a GT-S, you are screwed. "Nuf Said"

And btw, if he has an auto, then it cant be a GT-S. I am 99% sure that they only made them in a 6 speed.
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post Oct 14 2006, 09:24 AM
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I thought the GT-S had that or there version of the tiptronic. But ya, screwed if its a GT-S
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post Oct 14 2006, 09:25 AM
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Thanks for the opinion btw, just trying to think to hard about torque and weight and peak horsepower.
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post Oct 14 2006, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(PapaWood @ Oct 13 2006, 06:03 PM)
Ok, my freind used to have a beater, now he has a Celica 2003ish

If its a GT that meants it has 1.8l that is 140hp, weighs about 2500lbs auto tranny no mods.

If its a GT-S that means its like 180hp. about same weight

I have a RS(2.4L) with a cold air intake, lowered. So its what like 147hp. Auto. I think it weights close to 3000lbs closer to 2900.

So, what do you think would happen, he was kidding and said he wants to race, not sure what type of Celica he has. I know that my freinds gotta 95 Celica with a 2.2 and I can do well playing around with him.

What do you guys think would happen, all in driving? Hes got the better power to weight ratio thats for sure, but wouldn't the 2.4 grab that horsepower much easier then the 1.8 struggling to get it? If its a GTS im sure im screwed!
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Ah, yes, the GT is a 1ZZ and the GT-S is a 2ZZ. Neither can handle power very well.
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post Oct 14 2006, 05:13 PM
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my lug nuts have more torque than those damn variable-valve-timed engines.
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post Oct 14 2006, 05:59 PM
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:amen: :gunsmilie: LOL :beer:
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post Oct 15 2006, 07:30 PM
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Got the word its a GT. Hrm, now, maybe Ill make him think seriously about racing on our private road. little short of a quarter mile :) I can make the money back for the ground wire kit :beer:
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post Oct 15 2006, 08:03 PM
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Celica GT Vs. the 95 RS/GS it comes down to driver race.
celica is a lighter car, eclipse is a heaver car.

GTS have, auto and they are slow. it don't have a pull to it.

My friend says that his Celica can kill my Eclipse :nahrung034:
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doubt it. The celica gts can keep up with an eclipse just fine. However, like every VVT engine, it has no torque.

The Celica GT has no chance.
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my lug nuts have more torque than those damn variable-valve-timed engines.


QUOTE(PapaWood @ Oct 14 2006, 04:59 PM)
:amen:  :gunsmilie: LOL  :beer:
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You are more than welcome to quote that if you like.
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post Oct 19 2006, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(bobthecow @ Oct 16 2006, 02:03 AM)
doubt it.  The celica gts can keep up with an eclipse just fine.  However, like every VVT engine, it has no torque.

The Celica GT has no chance.
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Not EVERY...The QR25DE Nissan engine has more torque than horsepower...
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post Nov 7 2006, 02:40 PM
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Your car is heavy you have no chance, sounds like you need to save your gas and find a better job :)
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post Nov 8 2006, 11:00 AM
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i know this is :offtopic: but what would win between a 1997 eclipse gst an d the 2004 celica gt-s.
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post Nov 13 2006, 08:36 AM
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QUOTE(97eclipsegstspyder3 @ Nov 8 2006, 09:00 AM)
i know this is :offtopic: but what would win between a 1997  eclipse gst an d the 2004 celica gt-s.
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The GST is approx 210 hp the Celica is approx 180 hp.
Toyoyta makes a good car and can really put some pounds to the ground if modded right.
FYI: I raced a GT-S and yes he kicked my tail :blush-anim-cl:
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