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> If Your Car Will Not Start But It Cranks!, Do this
steve9876
post Nov 17 2008, 01:09 AM
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i had problem with my 1995 magna, intermittent no-start, and occasional stall-while-driving. motor cranking but no fire, then ten minutes later, or an hour later, starting up and running fine.

took it to mechanic, cost me a little but no fix. took it to mitsubishi dealer, cost me a little, no fix. took it to dealer again, no fix. another mechanic. back to mitsubishi dealer third time. bloke rang me up and said they would take it up the road to the autoelectrician who would erase all the stored data on the inbuilt computer, then next time problem was to happen, should be a new error message which would indicate the nature of the problem. nobody had told me before that there is a little computer which stores info on past errors.

a few days later, after car had stalled again, they took it back to the autoelectrician and run it through the diagnostic machine, changed a part (can't remember what it was, got it on the paperwork somewhere at home, mebbe the crank sensor - something to do with the distributor i think, rather than fuel) and bingo, zero problems in six months.

what they also found was that my alternator was pumping out an abnormally high voltage which they reckon could maybe have been the original cause of the damage or failure of the bad part.

cost of repair (alternator fix was covered by warranty) was i think about $180
total cost, including all five trips to mechanics and dealer, somewhere a litlle over $500.

funny that it took all that time before someone thought of the autoelectrician, which made it all so simple........


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post Apr 14 2009, 08:37 PM
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I dont know what's wrong with my 2g Gs i switched the ignition coil. And the starter is brand new. Also the Battery is good. The car is not getting no fuel or spark. Im clueless to know what it could be?

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post Aug 1 2009, 03:04 AM
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Great thread, helped me with an acquisition off of craigslist...1990 gst 107k for $100. Anyway, couple of other hints here. First, you can skip a little trouble shooting here by jumping the fuel pump relay. Done by taking the + battery terminal, attach jump wire, touch + fuel pump wire (taped wire harness next to firewall), and also a free fix check to ensure that the fuel pump electrical connector is connected. (In trunk, next to spare). Somehow my wife knocked mine loose, I was pissed off and elated at the same time...great forum here, first post today
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post Aug 1 2009, 03:09 AM
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QUOTE (PoteGs1331 @ Apr 14 2009, 08:37 PM) *
I dont know what's wrong with my 2g Gs i switched the ignition coil. And the starter is brand new. Also the Battery is good. The car is not getting no fuel or spark. Im clueless to know what it could be?

~~~I Need Help~~~



That sucks...try the part for jumping fuel relay to fix first part, as for spark may be a minute before I can get that worked around. Do you have spark on any cyl, or all gone? Possibly ecu?
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post Aug 7 2009, 07:19 PM
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i just brought a 1991 Plymouth Laser RS and there's no fuel pump running and no fire jumping at the spark plugs... all the symptoms of that defective relay. I have the Haynes shop manual i checked the relay and seems to be in top shape i checked if i had Pos (+) coming to the fuel pump terminal of the connector of the relay and there's none...:s plus i checked continuity of the wires from the relay connector to the fuel pump connectors and they both have continuity to the ground... i can't find the electrical schematic in the book so... i don't know if i can just bypass a wire straight from the relay connector to the fuel pump connector or if there anything somewhere in between these too that i need to include in the deal.. and would it get the ignition to the sparks back on??? :S I dunno what to do anymore i need that car running a.s.a.p and I'm getting upset of trying and trying over and over double checking everything twice. am i skipping a step or am i just to blind to see the problem loll hope to have the solution soon thank you for you attention




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post Sep 9 2009, 08:39 PM
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i have a 1999 2.0 L non turbo eclipse and literally i've tryed everything to get this car running. okay here's how it goes... my piston bearing overlapped each other and made a horrible knocking sound but at the time i thought i had threw a rod, So i removed the valve cover and the head to see just how damaged my pistons were and then i found i only overlapped bearings ( this was over a year and a half ago). Well i replaced that and my timing belt since i figured i might as well go ahead and do that too (bought a Haynes book to get the timing perfect). It started up fine then i took it around the block and 3 min after leaving my house it cut off suddenly... i once again tore the motor back down to find anti-freeze in my piston chamber, cleaned that out, and once agian put everything back together and still wont run, turns over fine though. anyways recently i drained the gas and put new in it just in case it was bad gas.. but ofcourse it wont.. i also replace the crankshaft and camshaft sensors. I have spark to my plugs and fuel getting to my fuel rail but still nothing. i was told by a mechanic that it could be my fuel filter clogged up and not enough pressure getting to my fuel injecters does that sound like my problem? Any help will be GREATLY appreciated..
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post Sep 24 2009, 10:29 AM
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I HAVE A 2001 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE RS I DONT HAVE A MANUAL FOR THE CAR I BEEN TRYING TO GET ONE AND GET MY CAR FIXED AT THE SAME TIME. I HAD A MECHANIC LOOK AT MY CAR AND HE NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER 13 FROM THE FUSE BOX IS.

ALSO IDK CUZ I'M NEW TO THIS AND CARS BUT I WOULD LIKE ANY SUGEESTIONS PLZ!!!!!!!!

MY FRIEND BOUGHT ME A NEW RADIO FOR THE CAR AND HAD MY BROTHER INSTALL IT SINCE THE RADIO WAS PUT IN THE LIGHTS TO THE INSIDE AND OUT WHERE DIMMING IN AND OUT FOR 2 DAYS WHEN I WOULD RIDE IN IT THEN BY THE 2ND DAY I WAS RIDING THE CAR HOME ON A RAINY DAY AND I CAME TO A STOP LIGHT AND MY CAR JUST SHUT OFF FOR NO REASON AND WOULDNT START. SO NOW I HAD TAKEN THE CAR TO A SHOP AND THEY SAID THAT THE CAR WOULD GO TO START AND SPARK AND AS SOON AS IT SPARK IT WOULD CUT BACK OFF AND BURN THE FUSE. THEY TOLD ME THAT THERE COULD BE A SHORTAGE IN THE WIRES, THAT IT COULD BE THE PROBLEM. NOW THEY DIDNT DO ELECTRICAL WORK SO I HAD THE CAR TOWED BACK TO MY HOUSE NOW. I HAVED PAID PEOPLE BACK AND FORTH TO TRY TO FIX OR TELL ME WHAT EXACTLY IS THE PROBLEM AND [u]THE CAR IS STILL NOT RUNNING CAN ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT TO DO I HARDLY HAVE ANY MONEY LEFT TO FIX THE CAR AND STILL NO CAR.

I BOUGHT A BRAND NEW BATTERY ITS FULL WITH GAS ITLL TURN OVER TO CRANK BUT JUST WONT START HELP PLS

IM A WOMEN TRYING TO LEARN ABOUT MY CAR AND NOT SPEND TO MUCH MONEY.

I ALSO NEED A MANUAL WHERE DO I GET ONE FROM??????????
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post Sep 24 2009, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE (veronikat @ Sep 24 2009, 08:29 AM) *
I HAVE A 2001 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE RS I DONT HAVE A MANUAL FOR THE CAR I BEEN TRYING TO GET ONE AND GET MY CAR FIXED AT THE SAME TIME. I HAD A MECHANIC LOOK AT MY CAR AND HE NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER 13 FROM THE FUSE BOX IS.

ALSO IDK CUZ I'M NEW TO THIS AND CARS BUT I WOULD LIKE ANY SUGEESTIONS PLZ!!!!!!!!

MY FRIEND BOUGHT ME A NEW RADIO FOR THE CAR AND HAD MY BROTHER INSTALL IT SINCE THE RADIO WAS PUT IN THE LIGHTS TO THE INSIDE AND OUT WHERE DIMMING IN AND OUT FOR 2 DAYS WHEN I WOULD RIDE IN IT THEN BY THE 2ND DAY I WAS RIDING THE CAR HOME ON A RAINY DAY AND I CAME TO A STOP LIGHT AND MY CAR JUST SHUT OFF FOR NO REASON AND WOULDNT START. SO NOW I HAD TAKEN THE CAR TO A SHOP AND THEY SAID THAT THE CAR WOULD GO TO START AND SPARK AND AS SOON AS IT SPARK IT WOULD CUT BACK OFF AND BURN THE FUSE. THEY TOLD ME THAT THERE COULD BE A SHORTAGE IN THE WIRES, THAT IT COULD BE THE PROBLEM. NOW THEY DIDNT DO ELECTRICAL WORK SO I HAD THE CAR TOWED BACK TO MY HOUSE NOW. I HAVED PAID PEOPLE BACK AND FORTH TO TRY TO FIX OR TELL ME WHAT EXACTLY IS THE PROBLEM AND [u]THE CAR IS STILL NOT RUNNING CAN ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT TO DO I HARDLY HAVE ANY MONEY LEFT TO FIX THE CAR AND STILL NO CAR.

I BOUGHT A BRAND NEW BATTERY ITS FULL WITH GAS ITLL TURN OVER TO CRANK BUT JUST WONT START HELP PLS

IM A WOMEN TRYING TO LEARN ABOUT MY CAR AND NOT SPEND TO MUCH MONEY.

I ALSO NEED A MANUAL WHERE DO I GET ONE FROM??????????


You can get a Haynes or Chilton's manual from NAPA, Autozone, etc... I think the best thing you can do is have your brother uninstall it exactly the way he installed it. Its better to have a car than a radio.
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post Feb 10 2010, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE (joncrav @ Dec 18 2006, 09:31 PM) *
I GOT A 1993 ECLIPSE 2.0 NONTURBO I SWAP ENGINES PUT JDM. RAN FINE FOR 8 MONTHS. NOW EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE THE CAR WILL NOT START. IT IS GETTING FIRE AND FUEL BUT I THINK TO MUCH FUEL. TODAY IT JUST CRANKED TRIED TO FIRE THEN CRANK OVER AND OVER. SO I PULLED OF THE FUEL LINE CAR STARTED PUT FUEL LINE ON WHILE RUNNING RAN FINE NOW STARTING FINE THIS HAS HAPPEND ABOUT ONCE A WEEK ANY SUGGESTIONS.

I have 99 GST were is the relay at? Is it on the pump?
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post Feb 17 2010, 11:36 PM
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i have a 1996 eagle talon esi had no problems with it then i left it out in a snow storm and i won't start but it will turn over i checked all the censors and i hooked it up to a little computer and it read no problems

could it be the computer or the ignition condenser in my car?
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check to see if you have spark at the coil and the plugs

if not look at the dissy module, cap or engine management computer
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i just read 8 pages trying to find where the fuel pump relay is on a 99 2.0 eclipse...everyone suggests it, but no one tells exactly where it is......when asked about problems, alot of members here keep saying this sensor or that, causing people to throw expensive parts at their cars blindly and uselessly....the truth is, on ANY fuel injected car of ANY make or model, any sensor can go bad and have the same symptoms as the others....ive been a member of many forums for years now, and im sorry but this thread is the worst ive seen in some time...the only thing in here that is remotely any help at all is telling people to check for fuel and spark and go from there.... everything electrical and fuel related have specific tests to preform individually...NOBODY can diagnose a fuel injected motor online, they can only give suggestions of different parts that can fail....and many people unknowingly read these suggestions and take it as gold and go spend their hard earned money on stuff they dont need.....and for heavens sake read the whole post before you answer with a halfazzed comment....now im gonna keep searching for someone who might know something on here to find this stupid relay so i can check it for power....
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QUOTE (OkcOffRoader @ Mar 8 2010, 12:45 PM) *
i just read 8 pages trying to find where the fuel pump relay is on a 99 2.0 eclipse...everyone suggests it, but no one tells exactly where it is......when asked about problems, alot of members here keep saying this sensor or that, causing people to throw expensive parts at their cars blindly and uselessly....the truth is, on ANY fuel injected car of ANY make or model, any sensor can go bad and have the same symptoms as the others....ive been a member of many forums for years now, and im sorry but this thread is the worst ive seen in some time...the only thing in here that is remotely any help at all is telling people to check for fuel and spark and go from there.... everything electrical and fuel related have specific tests to preform individually...NOBODY can diagnose a fuel injected motor online, they can only give suggestions of different parts that can fail....and many people unknowingly read these suggestions and take it as gold and go spend their hard earned money on stuff they dont need.....and for heavens sake read the whole post before you answer with a halfazzed comment....now im gonna keep searching for someone who might know something on here to find this stupid relay so i can check it for power....


It's behind the radio...
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