did you make sure to torque the cam gears when you put them back on? this is VERY important. if they weren't properly tightened the gears could spin on the cam breaking that little pin and throwing the car way out of time.

yes tourqued correctly

Thankx for everyone help, but i found my problem: The rear ( intake ) cam gear on this specific motor ( 2.0 non-turbo with the timing belt towards the passenger side ) needs to be rotated 180 degress. You DO NOT line up the normal marks on this car, you line the exhaust cam mark up normally, but the intake cam gear mark needs to be 180 degrees off.


THIS IS VERY HARD INFORMATION TO FIND. so whatever, do with it what you will, maybe make a specific post or topic about this or something. But it took me 2 weeks, and all of you guys, and a mechanic straight from mitsubishi to figure it all out. I can find pictures and stuff if you guys want, but its pretty self explanitory that way.

I will also make a post on a very helpful web page with everything you need to know about when changing a timing belt on these cars.


Thanks a lot guys

glad everything worked out. these engines are very tricky, thanks for the info :thumbsup:

ok, i have a 96 eclipse spyder 2.4. I cannot find the fuel pump relay anywhere. There is no fire and the fuel pump will not engage. anyone help me with this please. a picture would be helpful. Ive been told its by the brake fluid reservoir but i cannot find it and would venture to say thats wrong.

WERE IS THE FUEL RELAY AND THE ASD REALY LOCATED??

HOW do i time my car and all the gears?

What if I have a Evo 3 motor in a Laser and I have fuel in the fuel rail but no spark. I lost my key and had to tear the ignition apart to get it to turn over. Pumps fuel but no spark. Is there an anti-theft device that doesn't allow a spark??

Anyone know where to get coil pack for an evo iii motor for cheap. need one bad.

98 talon AWD with 1g swap, stage V sbr head, 9.0:1 wisecos with manley rods, evoIII turbo, 650cc injectors and DSM link to make it all work. the car was running when it was parked. didn't want the 2.3L block so all I did was change blocks from the stroker to the wiseco and manley block. didn't change anything else.

had fuel, had spark, had injector pulse, had new battery, had everything possible to make the engine start but it wouldn't fire. used starter fluid and it would fire, spun CAS to load cylinders with fuel and it would backfire. checked impedance, voltage and signal for EVERYTHING. after all that messing around it was bad fuel injectors. only 1 was supplying fuel to the cylinder.

shipped them off to fuel injector clinic, two were replaced the other two were repaired. it should fire when I get them back on monday.

it doesn't happen often that fuel injectors fail but if you are out of ideas, it's something worth checking.

ok i am having problems with my 91 eclipse 1.8L. i have replaced the fuel filter because thats what someone els said was the problem but it still will not start. it turns over but will not start. i took off the fuel rail to check the injectors and though they look old as all get out they don't look clogged or any thing, but after putting it back together it seamed to want to start, then i heard about needing to let the air out of the fuel rod by pressing a button or something to release the air in the fuel rod. i cant find any button or switch or anything to push to release the air or to test if there is fuel in the fuel rod, though i know there is because when i took it apart the second time to replace the o rings there was fuel in there again.

try to crank it

then pull your plugs

are they wet?

yes they are wet with what smells like gas. i also noticed that on a few of them the ends looked like they had a bunch of lime or sum kind of buildup on the ends. So im going to make a wild guess and say its proly my spark plugs??? and not the injectors??

well i just replaced my spark plugs and the darn thing started!!! thanks guys, i didnt think to actually pull them out and take a look at them i just checked to see if it was getting power. B^)

so if your car will turn over but wont start, pull out your spark plugs and check them to make sure they are not all gunked up like mine B^)

i was about this close II to ordering new fuel injectors B^)

Another my car wont start... Hopefully someone ran into this as its got to be a simple one..

'98 RS 2.0 Automatic.. 55,000 miles. Never modded.

Most of the time the car starts, runs, and drives like a dream.. After it sits for a while, the car will crank fine, but not start.. As soon as you jump it or hit it with a charger, the car will start and run fine until it sits again for a while.. Battery is good. Actually I tried 2 batteries, one about 3-4 months old and load tested good, and another brand new one that I bought today.. No difference between the 2. No corrosion on the cables and they're tight. Alternator and starter tested good as well. Good fuel pressure at the rail.. Just started piddling with it today, so I have not tested the coil packs, but its an intermittent problem anyways, so I'm sure they will test good.. Like I said it runs perfect when it starts..

I'm going to pull out the volt meter for some more testing tomorrow, chase some grounds, and see if I can't do some more narrowing down, but if anybody has any ideas, i'm all ears..

Thanks.

hey guys here is my story: I bought a 1995 eclipse a few days ago. test drove it once, car ran great. clean engine, 180k miles, but ran great. Only noticeable thing is that the battery light is on. previous owner said it had come on the week before.

Came back the next day and bought it. Gas light had come on during the test drive, so I take it to the gas station a block from his house and fill the tank. I punch the trip odometer so I can get an Idea how far my new car will go on a full tank.

I proceed to drive my new eclipse, and i'm giddy like a little kid. car runs great, is cool as hell. I'm keeping the stereo off, listening for any weird noises, trying to familiarize myself with the car. get home park the car.

few hours later, drive to the store, as I'm slowing for a red, car sputters a bit, like its still in gear even though I've put in neutral. I chalk this up to a new gear pattern assume it was in gear, push in the clutch, no big deal car does not die. This happens again a few minutes later at a stop sign.

I leave the store, drive to the stop sign, car sputters, and this time dies, and will not start.

I've now driven a total of 17 miles. Every time I try and start it, it just turns over. If it sits for a few hours, or overnight it will catch, run for a second or two then die.

Poking around under the hood I cant smell any fuel at all so thats the first thing I check. I've got the Hayes repair manual, so I follow the troubleshooting guide.

when turning the key on, i listen to the fuel pump underneath the rear seat, there is no whirrr noise and the pump is not engaging, same when cranking the engine over. I pull the battery and use some jumper wires to get power directly to the pump it whirrrs right on, so fuel pump is ok.

Next I found the fuel relay next to the brake fluid reservoir. I was told the relay on the left is the fuel and on the right is the MFI relay. I pull the fuel relay match the number and replace it for 18 bucks from autozone. still nothing, fuel pump is not kicking on.

this is my first mitsu and i havent even driven it 30 minutes before the thing just died. The guy who I bought it from claimed it had never done anything like that before when i called him, and now wont return my calls. I'm kinda screwed with this, I had it towed to my house, but I'm at a loss as what to try next.

Should i replace the MFI relay as well? Might this be related to the mystery battery light or sitting for a few weeks with an empty tank? A cutoff for a blocked injectors or fueline or something like that? I'm grasping at straws here, Ive got no practical knowledge of this engine.

Can anyone offer a suggestion on what to try next?

John

well

it could always be the battery

or alternator

when you jump the car(off another car)

does it start?
and continue to run?

ok, I've replaced the cam sensor (after having to re-wire the damn thing so the plug would match up) replaced the fuel relay, the fuel filter, the battery, checked all my fuses, re-tested the fuel pump which (which seems to be working fine) and still nothing. It cranks and cranks and wont fire up. When I first crank it after letting it sit for a day or so, it will start right up, sputter and then die.

I've spent 200 bucks on the above things that were not the problem, and now I'm afraid I'm going to have to bend over and take it to the shop...Anyone else have any suggestions before I do??

check the fuel pressure at the rail before and during start up when it actually starts. it should be 38psi.

is there any kind of smoke when it actually starts?

1999 Eclipse 2.0 liter. Here's what I know from driving it (it's my daughter's car). Drive it until engine is fully warm and then turn it off. It will restart immediately, but if you wait 5 or 10 minutes it will just crank until it cools down. There is no spark when it just cranks and it never dies while running. I assumed it was getting fuel but after reading other posts, I need to confirm that. To me it's an obvious heat issue but it's been years since I tinkered with cars. There are no error codes and the only thing that is not stock is the air cleaner - her boyfriend replaced the stock one with a "better" one that draws air directly from the engine compartment. If there are no better ideas I'll just shotgun all of the cheap sensors.