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 If Your Car Will Not Start But It Cranks!, Do this
 
Pascualbad
post Oct 10 2007, 10:55 PM
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k heres ma prolem..i have a 95 eclips rs with 93k miles on it...the car runs fine but itl just die on me while running at random...wats wrong wit it????
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post Nov 7 2007, 12:18 AM
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hello, i am posting on this thread as i am experiencing similar symptoms to what you describe - however my car is a magna not a eclipse. does anyone know whether (or not) the problem may be transferable between these two models?

i am posting this plea for help in various relevant locations of relevant websites. i sincerely hope that i don't waste anybody's time by having them devote their valuable time to my issue more than once.

three months ago i bought a 1995 mitsubishi magna TS executive wagon (EFI). it goes absolutely fine 99% of the time.the other 1% is rendering it unreliable, as my work requires punctuality. i have so far driven the car about 5,000 kms.

1. car won't start. on turning the key, the motor cranks but it seems as if no fuel is supplied. half an hour or more later, it starts and runs as normal (very nicely, it seems).

2. motor cuts out. while cruising along, the motor suddenly cuts out (no warning noises or feelings - it is as if fuel supply is instantaneously interrupted.) car will not restart (see above). half an hour later, it starts as normal and runs perfectly.

on two occasions i have called the roadside assistance but both times, when the mechanic arrived after 45 minutes, the car then started and the mechanic was therefore unable to diagnose the problem (what problem?). similarly, i took the car to a mechanic who had a look and went as far as to replace a plug leading to the distributor cap, but again, he was unable to diagnose the problem as the car started and ran fine all day while it was in the workshop.

i have looked at some website forums for similar problems, which suggest replacing the fuel pump control relay, or a malfunction of the immobiliser but these advice are not necessarily for my model of car. is there someone out there who knows about these sort of thing and might be able to shed a bit of light on the matter? unfortunately i am not mechanically-minded enough to be tinkering around under the hood, even with the help of the manual i bought (it is an interesting but also baffling book - i'm sure i can learn a lot from it, but it doesn't make me feel confident about taking my car apart!).

cheers everybody!


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post Nov 23 2007, 08:48 AM
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Hi everyone I'm new I just bought an eclipse 3 months ago I had to change my alternator and buy new belts but my tension screw for the alternator is bad i think cause it keeps coming loose. Anyway one day driving my alternator belt popped so i changed it myself felt real good cause i did my self then as i ride around the block to charge the battery my dash lights started to blink then the hole car went dead and when i checked the fuse box it was my ignition switch fuse. Every time i changed it it would blow agian till now but now the car wont start and the last mechanic to look at it told me my spark was too low(don't know why) just is. I'm a teen and wanted to fix it myself instead of dishing out cash I don't have to a shop soo If anyone can shed some light on whats going on I would appreciate it alot thanx.
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post Dec 7 2007, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(AreJ @ Nov 23 2007, 08:48 AM)
Hi everyone I'm new I just bought an eclipse 3 months ago I had to change my alternator and buy new belts but my tension screw for the alternator is bad i think cause it keeps coming loose. Anyway one day driving my alternator belt popped so i changed it myself felt real good cause i did my self then as i ride around the block to charge the battery my dash lights started to blink then the hole car went dead and when i checked the fuse box it was my ignition switch fuse. Every time i changed it  it would blow agian till now but now the car wont start and the last mechanic to look at it told me my spark was too low(don't know why) just is. I'm a teen and wanted to fix it myself instead of dishing out cash I don't have to a shop soo If anyone can shed some light on whats going on I would appreciate it alot thanx.
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Wire short somewhere have fun :57:
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post Dec 7 2007, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(JohnnyUtah @ Sep 17 2007, 05:03 PM)
ok,  I've replaced the cam sensor (after having to re-wire the damn thing so the plug would match up) replaced the fuel relay, the fuel filter, the battery, checked all my fuses, re-tested the fuel pump which (which seems to be working fine) and still nothing. It cranks and cranks and wont fire up. When I first crank it after letting it sit for a day or so, it will start right up, sputter and then die.

I've spent 200 bucks on the above things that were not the problem, and now I'm afraid I'm going to have to bend over and take it to the shop...Anyone else have any suggestions before I do??
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ever think that maybe it has bad gas?
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post Dec 9 2007, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(kylewr86 @ Dec 7 2007, 12:41 PM)
Wire short somewhere have fun :57:
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I got it fixed already cost me 200 for a wire :( and he didn't even tell me where it was in case it happen again so can fix it myself.
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post Dec 10 2007, 04:11 PM
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My cousins new 98 talon esi cranks a lot before it start the first time, turn it off and try again and it fires right up. Whats up? It also makes a high pitched noise when it starts. Any ideas on that?
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post Dec 29 2007, 03:29 AM
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Sometimes, it cranks but doesn't start for a few tries, I take the key out, try again and it works. Other times, it works fine. What could this be?
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post Jan 9 2008, 06:39 AM
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Holy Crap! Thanx bro! I actually jus bought my car and that is exactly what it is doing! Its got spark, so now I guess I am going to test the fuel rail!
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post Jan 9 2008, 04:58 PM
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I got a 93 Talon 1.8L wrapped it around a pole the 24th of December started and ran fine before this but since won't start don't hear the fuel pump wondering if there is a kill switch in it or have I simply rattled something loose would kinda like it to start this way I might be able to sell it for parts but if not I have no beefs hauling it to a wrecking yard
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post Jan 13 2008, 08:41 PM
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I have a 93 eclipse and I've tried all the easy stuff even replacing the distributer but is still has an spark problem. Seems to fire randomly and even double some times but still doesn't start. Any ideas what to try next?




QUOTE(kylewr86 @ Oct 18 2006, 11:08 PM)
Too many people on the forum,say there car wont start but it cranks and tries to start.
And too many people check a few things,give up, and take it to the dealer when they could save a lot of money.CHECK THE CHEAP STUFF FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So im gonna help out and all the moderators im sure will add things ive missed but here goes.

#1 If you turn the key and nothing happens,Check the battery.This is simple just use an ohmnmeter to test the voltage.Not the battery then check the alternator and all starting circuit wires.Also check to see if the battery wires are corroded.

If your car cranks over but just doesnt fire up....

First see if there is spark.Just pull a plug,And have someone try to start it. (Need help just ask)
Second check to see if there's fuel at the fuel rail.There will be a test port that you can push and fuel should shoot out.

If fuel does shoot out,then have someone stand by the gas tank while you turn the car on to acc.They should hear the pump prime.

(DONT HEAR THE PUMP PRIME) CHECK the Fuel pump relay.Its a cheap part to buy or you can probe it.You will need a manuel though to see how and what the specs  should be.Use a multimeter for that.

If you bleed the fuel at the rail. turn the key to acc and also hear the fuel pump prime..
you could have a fuel pump on its way out(aka its not working all the time),
clogged fuel filter,or a hose leak see if there is a puddle or some leaking underneath.

BUT if fuel is at the fuel rail and you have spark,your injectors may be clogged.
You can also backprobe your injectors to see if they are getting a pulse.

If you work and work and nothing checks out....

THEN TAKE IT TO A MECHANIC AND SPEND THE BIG BUCKS TO SEE WHAT THE HELL IS UP.

REMEMBER ALWAYS DO EASY THINGS TO HARD THINGS,too many times has the problem been a $5 fix and you gave up,took it to a mechanic and spent $500.
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post Jan 23 2008, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(pwee05 @ Sep 18 2007, 10:40 AM)


is there any kind of smoke when it actually starts?
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Pretty much having the same issues as everyone else (will be checking the relays today) but mine does have smoke coming out occasionally when I start it, not sure from where though...somewhere near the engine it looks like.
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post Jan 23 2008, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(95Talon4g63 @ Jan 9 2008, 06:39 AM)
Holy Crap! Thanx bro! I actually jus bought my car and that is exactly what it is doing! Its got spark, so now I guess I am going to test the fuel rail!
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your avatar is sick man.LOL
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post Jan 24 2008, 01:09 AM
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QUOTE(silvreclipse @ Jan 23 2008, 06:59 PM)
your avatar is sick man.LOL
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post Jan 28 2008, 02:39 PM
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i bought a 95 eclipse rs a bout a month ago the water pump went my dad and i fixed it 2 find that the heater hose was blown also after fighting with the battery and cold air intake we fixed it now that its back together it wont start i have purple spark (thank u msd) and a lot of fuel it sprays out when we pull the plugs

we called a dealer and they saud that we may have cooked the temp sensor taking it home with no coulant and its pushing gas at it to try to cool down the engine

my dad and i are muscle car people so these sensors and comps are new to us
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post Jan 28 2008, 08:53 PM
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Somebody will know but this isn't necessarily the best place to ask. Make a new topic for it- I'll do it and post a link
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post Jan 28 2008, 08:57 PM
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Here's the link:

http://www.mitsubishi-forums.com/index.php...8&st=0&p=137859

I'm feeling nice today so I'll PM it to you also
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post Feb 9 2008, 12:33 AM
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I have a 92 Turbo Eclipse with 117000 miles. The engine runs a little rough.
When it is cold outside in the morning, like 50 degrees or less, the starter turns but the engine won't start. When the sun comes out and it gets warmer later in the day, the car starts after a few cranks. It has been doing this for a while. What component could be temperature sensitive and stop working correctly at below 50 degrees?? I don't know what to check first...
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sup guys i got this newly rebuilt engine in my 98 gsx and it has perfect compression and fuel but wont start...it turns over but wont fully start up...ran computer and no codes come up...replaced the spark plugs and im getting spark and the fuel is pumping so im out of ideas...what could be the problem?
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post Feb 28 2008, 10:39 PM
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Yo? Two questions.

1) I saw the page that tells how to tell what year the replacement motor is. Question is how to tell what the 10th digit is. There are 4 on the top and 7 on the botom of the plate. The 10th is 3, but there is no way that the engine is a 03. Is there another plate?

2)I have a 93 Eclipse GS. The origanal motor is still in it, but it won't crank. You can hear it trying to start, but the cams don't turn. Any simple soloutions or are the valves obviously fried?

Any help on these matters is greatly appreciated. Peace.
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