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 If Your Car Will Not Start But It Cranks!, Do this
 
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post Feb 28 2008, 11:19 PM
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I had this same problem on my car. It would crank but the car would not start. It ended up being that the connecting rod in cylinder one had snapped. That can be easily checked by removing the spark plugs and using a screw driver and try to push the pistons down.
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post Mar 13 2008, 10:38 AM
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I have a 91 eclipse GS none turbo. when it is warm it starts like a champ. on the first turn of the key. but when it's cold it takes for ever to start. I had a budy check it out mainly because he has a ecm decoder, and he thinks fuel pump is going out, that it doese not always have fuel presure.
I also have a 92 eclipse parts car... the 91 has the before Jan 91 fuel pump. and the 92 has the newer one. lol
My question is what is the difrence between the two fuel pumps? presure? or how it mounts to the tank?


And on the useing starting fuild on a fuel injected car to start it : the more you use starting fluid on it. the more you will need to use it. it plays havic on the mass airflow senser.
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post Mar 18 2008, 02:20 AM
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Before I add to the topic:

As for the starting fluid, you could always just drill a hole after the MAF to squirt it in there and plug it up after you start it. Just an idea to save your MAF.

To add to the topic:

Check you firing order. On 2G's, if you just did a tune-up and can't figure out why you can't start your car, try switching the number 3 and 4 plug wires. It acts like it really wants to start while you turn it over.

In when OBD II came around in '97, the firing order changed. Not sure why, but it did. Since there are more '97+ cars around, people automatically assume that the firing order is the same for all 2G's.
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post Mar 19 2008, 12:15 PM
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My car it will start if i push start it but there is a black wire with a yellow stripe that is just chillin there does anybody know what it goes to it and it will have the same problem as the guy is talking about but i want to know and when i turn the key over there is the fuel pump noise but when i go to start it there is a slight clicking noise but i dont know what that is either o and anybody that can find me a good turbo kit help please
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post Mar 27 2008, 11:30 AM
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Here is what's happening to my wifes 98 non-turbo. Every so often when we go to start the car the engine will turn over and rev up 1k RPM. Then a second later the RPMs drop and the engine stalls. After leaving the car sitting for a few hours the engine will run like nothings happenend. I have had people look at it twice and they can't figure out what's wrong.

Just the other day the car just shut down while she was driving it. All the electrical stuff worked. It was the same issue. Then engine cant keep the RPMs up to sustain idle.

My friend thinks its a relay on the manifold. There are 3..from what I remember. The one close to the throttle body seems to get hotter than the others. Thats the one my friend thinks is bad. What is the official name of that one?

Any help would be great. Perhaps I should take some pics of these relays and you guys can point out which ones are the ones that usually go bad. Thanks.
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post Mar 27 2008, 11:17 PM
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I just verified from the Haynes service manual that the fuel pump relay and the MFI relay on a 98-99 2.4 non turbo is located in the passenger compartment.
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post Mar 28 2008, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(parrotheadpete @ Sep 24 2007, 04:24 PM)
1999 Eclipse 2.0 liter.  Here's what I know from driving it (it's my daughter's car).  Drive it until engine is fully warm and then turn it off. It will restart immediately, but if you wait 5 or 10 minutes it will just crank until it cools down.  There is no spark when it just cranks and it never dies while running.  I assumed it was getting fuel but after reading other posts, I need to confirm that.  To me it's an obvious heat issue but it's been years since I tinkered with cars.  There are no error codes and the only thing that is not stock is the air cleaner - her boyfriend replaced the stock one with a "better" one that draws air directly from the engine compartment.  If there are no better ideas I'll just shotgun all of the cheap sensors.
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check for fuel then spark.if you dont have spark it prob the fuel pump sensor.listen to see if the pump makes the priming noise.
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post Apr 1 2008, 03:46 PM
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:) go to dodge with proof of ownership and for 26$ they cut you the right key ..sure beat tearing it all up
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post Apr 2 2008, 09:57 AM
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ok guys i have another question....... what if you have completely rebuilt the 420a motor, dropped it back in, new battery, new starter, you go to turn it over, it turns over easy but you have no fuel or fire. could it possibly be the crank sensor or what should i be looking for? a 2 month project thats been going on for 8 months now :puzzled: :puzzled:
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post May 2 2008, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(ceejay @ Mar 27 2008, 11:30 AM)
Here is what's happening to my wifes 98 non-turbo.  Every so often when we go to start the car the engine will turn over and rev up 1k RPM.  Then a second later the RPMs drop and the engine stalls.  After leaving the car sitting for a few hours the engine will run like nothings happenend.  I have had people look at it twice and they can't figure out what's wrong. 

Just the other day the car just shut down while she was driving it.  All the electrical stuff worked.  It was the same issue.  Then engine cant keep the RPMs up to sustain idle. 

My friend thinks its a relay on the manifold.  There are 3..from what I remember.  The one close to the throttle body seems to get hotter than the others.  Thats the one my friend thinks is bad.  What is the official name of that one? 

Any help would be great.  Perhaps I should take some pics of these relays and you guys can point out which ones are the ones that usually go bad.  Thanks.
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IAC- idle air controller is the sensor on the throttle body. this could definately be your cause. it might be possible that it just needs cleaned also.
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post Jun 24 2008, 09:47 PM
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hi im new i just got my 97 gs-t from mi dad it sat for 2 years after he broke 4 valves and bent 4 others i got that fixed took the head to a shop and had it examined it looked like new also had a valve job done so all new valves. when i got it put back together it ran i drove it out of mi garage and thats were it sat for like 3 days. today i went out to get the serial off the radio so i could get it unlocked and after that i tried to start it and it did but it just died when i tried to start it it just cranks and tries to turn over. when it did run there was no smoke of anykind and it is in time i had a friend of mine thats a mechanic help me with that and i cant figger it out when i drove it after i got it fixed it was dieing and idleing really low but after running for a few mins was fine it was doin the same thing b4 it died so i thought it would b fine after a few mins but it just died i think it may b the gas cuz its 2 years old but i ran b4 on it so i dont no. any help would be appreciated ty
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post Jun 25 2008, 07:34 AM
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if the gas is 2 years old that would be the first thing to take care of. put new gas in there and try that.
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post Jun 25 2008, 04:20 PM
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ok im like really new to the whole fixn the car ur self thing is there an ez way to do that or is it hard mi dad said something about taken the gas line off the engine and just letting the car pump it out on its own?
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post Jun 26 2008, 02:37 AM
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ok well i got the gass out of the tank and put 4 gallons of new gas and the car wont start now and i think its cuz the battery is dead but every thing still works and it still tries to turn over
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post Jun 26 2008, 08:26 AM
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these cars are very picky when it comes to batteries. If the battery is even the slightest bit weak it won't start, even though it might crank.

I built a 1g talon and tried to get it to fire for 2 weeks and it just wouldn't start. I tried everything and was to the point of tearing it all back apart to check if something wasn't clearanced correctly, but figured I would try the battery out of my car just because I was curious. Once I had the battery in I cranked it and it fired right up.
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post Jun 26 2008, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE(CodyRocks @ Dec 3 2006, 03:14 AM)
you wont hear a sound from the relay, youll hear it from the fuel pump. im not sure about 1G eclipses, but on a 2G, you can usually hear the fuel pump make a whirring noise for a second when you first turn the key to ACC (the furthest spot you can turn it to before it tries to crank the car)
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Actually on my 2g when you turn the ignition on you canh hear the mfi and fuel pump relay click on..

i had a hell of a time going through all that stuff until i figured out my crank angle sensor was bad....lmao
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post Jun 26 2008, 06:50 PM
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**** your kidding me right i have to go get a new battery just to get it to start this car is a pain but i no the trouble will b worth it in the end.
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post Jun 26 2008, 08:17 PM
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ok i took the battery and had it checked and they say its good. but now when i try to statrt it it doesnt even try to crank it just makes a really fast clicking sound. the one time i did get it to fire up it ran fine didnt sputter or any thing but the problem is gettin it to turn on. i need to try to get this fixed or else in a few days im out of a vehicle and on foot till it runs
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post Jun 27 2008, 08:01 AM
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have a friend come over and hook jumper cables up to your car with the battery in it. Let his car run and try to have him hold the RPM around 2500. After about 30 seconds try to start your car.

Sometimes a battery will test good even though it has a shorted cell. Was the battery tester a "load" tester or just a diagnostic from advance auto?
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post Jun 27 2008, 09:56 AM
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im not sure i took it to autozone but i did try to jump it and i found the big issue the car isnt getting any spark
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