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 Non-turbo To Turbo Conversion, Info for turboing a NT motor.
 
EMC 3000gt
post Feb 7 2008, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE(FieroGuy9890 @ Feb 7 2008, 05:28 AM)
right now the O2 sensor isn't plugged in because the wires were too short and melted, and the Idle air control valve went bad and is now unplugged.
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post Feb 7 2008, 06:29 PM
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Well i unplugged my idle close switch, the little 1 wire connector on the TB and the idle stopped searching just idles around 1600 rpm or so now. No clue about how it idles cold yet though. Anyways I'm going to try to get the O2 sensor, idle air control valve, and now the idle close switch replaced as soon as I can. Maybe that'll help my gas mileage alittle bit too.
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post Feb 29 2008, 06:53 PM
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This is what I had to start with. The run of the mill 420a Motor with a mildly blown head gasket.

I had many parts powder coated and to date I actually need to recoat one ( I didnt judge hood clearance and scraped the Tial wastegate) This is mosly what I am relying on to clean up the Engine bay to show acceplable street class.

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For every smartie out there who thinks that powdercoat wont work on a turbo I have been running the turbo for three months with no problems.

Funny enough the hardest part of the Turbo install I did was getting the Exhuast manifold off. Every bolt was already stripped by previous owner or shop and made it a hell of a time to get the heat shield off! I actually had to chisel them off and it took all night



Here is the manifold unbolted finally, Oh and the manifold uses a couple different sizes of studs, dont ask I was scratching my head too.

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Here is the turbo manifold lined up on the block, this is the old stainless exhaust gasket. It was very rusted and no I wont use this one agian.


Here is the Turbo bolted up and I painted the Manifold and turbo High temp semigloss black. This is temporary because the gloss will not stay through the heat. I will need to have this manifold coated with powdercoat later. I was already a week behind and my GF was mad the car was still in the garage so the Coating of the manifold will be a different day.

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Here is a Day shot of the fresh T3/T4 Turbonetics turbo. The VROG FMU from Hahn was installed at a place down the street. I didtn have line wrenches and I was tired from being up all night from all the other work. While I was there I had them install the oil line supply for the turbo too.

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The car says I eat HOndas ! no really when I was takin him apart I swear there was a 1.8 l tranny in the back of the intake ......JK

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This is the larg version of me working in the rain, If I could stand jessi wanted me working on it :(

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Here is the used intercooler I installed. I got this with the BOV and piping on ebay. It is dented but holds boost and is fint until I can afford the 600 dollar Spearco intercooler I want for the car.

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Yes I know its a little crooked , I took the picture just to see what it would look like but you gotta loosen the mounting screws to get the IC piping to spread far enough apart to get the couplers on! Everything was bent very tight.

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This was the single bent pipe that I used to run down to the cool side of the intercooler. I didnt want any couplers on this portion since the engine rocks back and forth. So insteead the pip will flex slightly and only two coupler flex. I have been boosting since Dec 2007 like this and I have not had a problem yet.

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This was the hardest connection to make. It looks easy but the coupler is weak and doesnt have alot of strength for tension. I had to rap it with electrical tape and seal it with silocon on the inside. I didnt have time to wait on a coupler I was in somone elses garage. However on a lighter point this fix also seems to have worked very well and is still holding up even today ( yeah I should get a new coupler)

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This is what the pipes connecting the intercooler looked like at first. They werent perfectly lined up with the IC. However this was how it had to be because the pipe had to make such a tight curve. I wish I still had my welder and I would just make all new piping myself.

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Later that day I still could not get the pipes to hold in what I believe would be permenant. I beet my head agianst the wall for another 6 hours until I realized that Radiator hose is rated at 45 Psi and thats alot more that the boost I would run. My solution ended up being to make a coupler that was 2 inches longer and signifigantly beefier to handle the torque from the engine tuggin on it.

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This is the end result of cutting a new section of hose for a coupler to tame the difficult high tension piping. I painted the piping black just becuase It looked wierd to have some chromed piping and some stainless steel that not polished beside each other. this realy cleaned it up.



I put a Small Red Tial Spring in which regulated the boost to 5 psi. That is until I purchase injectors and a calibration unit for the FMU.



I agian banged my head agianst the wall because no matter what I did I couldnt get all four mounting holes on each side of the tial to line up. At best I could get 3. What happened is that the Tial wastegate flange was welded outside the car, before it cooled the guy sprayed it with water.... ANYTIME you spray somthing with water that was jsut molten will warp slightly so when I unbolted the parts and tried to put them back together they didnt fit. However I leaned the fuel out a bit and let the car idle, the manifold got hot enough that the metal ( metal has memory) moved back to the way it was before it was sprayed with water and I screwed the one bolt in. I also too the time to tighten the other studs while it was warm.

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This is the FMU idle screw, the darn shop that installed the FMU had the dile pressure set at 4 psi, what morons! no wonder it ran like ****



I used this supplied guage and threaded it to the FMU to moniter fuel pressure when tuning.

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I adjusted the fuel till it was 55 psi, stock pressure
The momen of truth I started the car and had somone follow me around the block. The car overheated. For some reason the stock clamp wasnt making a seal, so I put a Worm gear clamp above it on the hose, added more water and tried agian and it drove fine. the car felt like a different machine all together. It probably has arounf 200 whp right now and I will bump the Boost as soon as I get the new injectors and intake in!

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post Feb 29 2008, 06:58 PM
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Here is how the pipes turned out FYI everyone. I have not posted the Body picture of the car because the fenders are not the same color right now.


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Here is the car at the shop getting prepped for paint. Aparently I had alot more dents that I thought! I even had on in the new Drivers side fender, F&*^ing Ebay!

It is being painted W26 frost white just like the 2007 eclipse Gt

For more info and to see the progress go to Upgradecar.blogspot.com
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post Mar 3 2008, 06:56 PM
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wow man thats really nice right there.
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post Apr 9 2008, 12:28 AM
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ok, so i did read this, and i have a question is there any problem if i want to go turbo but my car has 161*** miles? i have a 98 eclipse rs :liebe011:
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post Apr 9 2008, 01:10 AM
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A simple compression test can help decide that for you.
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post Apr 9 2008, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(Rob @ Apr 9 2008, 01:10 AM)
A simple compression test can help decide that for you.
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ok, can you explain that a little bit more? i kind of know about compression test and i will ask to somebody who knows more than me, so, what i'm looking for in a compression test? only if is right is ok to go for turbo? what do i need to do if is not right? :liebe011:
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post Apr 9 2008, 07:27 PM
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Compression test will tell you how your engine is holding up. If you don't have good compression, you need to rebuild.

If you have good compression then you have the green light
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post Apr 9 2008, 10:46 PM
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thanks, and how much is good compression?
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post Apr 15 2008, 12:11 PM
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the test results will literally tell you. Your mechanic will say "you have good compression" or "you need a rebuild"
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post Apr 16 2008, 04:24 PM
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I am getting my new 270cc injectors in as soon as its warm enough to stay outside after dark. I had a set of injectors come in and I was running very rich. Turned out I was running 750cc accel injectors. I had to return them to Hahn racecraft. I almost had ringwash there was so much fuel. I had to change my oil and put the stockers back in until I recieved the 270cc in the mail. I recieved them last friday. I am ready to install the 270cc injectors tonight if I can get my buddy to come over with some tools and small hands.

The paint job turned out pretty good. I still have alot of polishing and buffing to do. Two spots need to be touched up that somhow have a very small blemish. I am pretty picky. I have my new wheels now and will be installing them tonight if I do not install the injectors.

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post Apr 16 2008, 11:29 PM
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wow, nice paint job, you did a good job there man, why you have a .4 turbo valve cover? are you planing on instal it in your car?
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QUOTE(NoogaboX @ Apr 16 2008, 04:24 PM)
I am getting my new 270cc injectors in as soon as its warm enough to stay outside after dark.  I had a set of injectors come in and I was running very rich. Turned out I was running 750cc accel injectors.  I had to return them to Hahn racecraft. I almost had ringwash there was so much fuel.  I had to change my oil and put the stockers back in until I recieved the 270cc in the mail. I recieved them last friday.  I am ready to install the 270cc injectors tonight if I can get my buddy to come over with some tools and small hands.

The paint job turned out pretty good. I still have alot of polishing and buffing to do.  Two spots need to be touched up that somhow have a very small blemish. I am pretty picky. I have my new wheels now and will be installing them tonight if I do not install the injectors.
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try turning your fuel pressure down. 38psi is stock not 55 :thumbsup:

Edit: ignore that i'm thinking of the wrong engine. you are right 55psi is stock for a n/t car. sorry
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post May 6 2008, 03:27 AM
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ok so ive got a 420a and im getting ready to deploy. when i get back im gonna be setting on an **** load of $ and i want to know what all i can do to squize every last drop of hp out of the 420a with out a swap.. give it all to me .. including the best turbo i can get would love to get a shopping list if i could and order all the parts while im over in the sandbox cus it hits as tax free...:) also want to know what i need to change out to go from drums in the back to rotors....
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ok, since you don't have to change internals on hahns stage II, is ok to be a D/D, right? and what kind of gauges i have to get if i go with it? are they easy to install?
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post May 15 2008, 02:40 PM
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your worried about installing gauges, and you want to turbo your car?
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post May 15 2008, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE(EMC 3000gt @ May 15 2008, 02:40 PM)
your worried about installing gauges, and you want to turbo your car?
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lol, i think with a couple of friends and all the info here and there i can do it, but i haven't seen anything about gauges