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post Aug 24 2007, 02:42 AM
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The local DSM shop here is building a drag car. I got to watch them tune it a little tonight! WOW! :P
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They just started tuning this tonight ...This thing is gonna be sick! :grin: :thumbsup:
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post Aug 24 2007, 01:59 PM
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yeah that car was at the DSM shoot out this year.
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post Aug 24 2007, 06:57 PM
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dam :)
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post Aug 25 2007, 11:09 AM
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that is sooo sexy
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post Sep 18 2007, 04:44 AM
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atleast some realised the rotary's are ****
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QUOTE(REiGNx4G64 @ Sep 18 2007, 01:44 AM)
atleast some realised the rotary's are ****
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calling sucks with out having any idea what so every is just stupid. Do you even have any ideas of the Wankel rotary in the racing world and why today that NO racing serices don't use rotary engine??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/787b

"Engine speed (RPM's) were deliberately kept low for longevity under the extreme stresses incurred during a 24-hour endurance race. The 787 was reported to have a redline around 9000rpm. However, interviews with Mazda's 787 race engineers revealed that the power of the quad-rotor increased dramatically above 9000rpm. One engineer stated that the car could develop more than 930hp with a redline around 10,500rpm. Engineers also commented that during the post-race inspection and tear-down of the quad-rotor engine they discovered that all aspects of the engine were still in excellent condition and could have run another 24-hour race."
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post Sep 18 2007, 12:28 PM
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I have hated rotary ever since they started putting them in warplanes in the early 1900's
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post Sep 19 2007, 12:41 AM
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want to know a little faq on the reason that rotary is anymore? Because Rotary was kicking some major tail so the piston guys went and cry about it. So pretty much all racing form followed and piston type engine stay and rotary is going
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post Sep 19 2007, 04:00 AM
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QUOTE(4G63Attack @ Sep 19 2007, 12:41 AM)
want to know a little faq on the reason that rotary is anymore? Because Rotary was kicking some major tail so the piston guys went and cry about it. So pretty much all racing form followed and piston type engine stay and rotary is going
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then what the hell are you doing with a mitsu if you seem to love rotaries so much?

the have great top end, but have horrible torque.
and they are only good motor if you have a turbo pushin high boost on it
and they won le mans because of the motor weighed near nothing.
you put a rotary in a heavy car it wont go anywhere fast if its moves at all
thats why you ONLY see them in mazda Rx cars
look at the hp and torque rating on rotaries the torque isnt very impressive
thats why %99.99 manufactures use piston engines

and if its so great why is mazda only using in one model series?
because it has little torque and everything else they make is way too heavy for the sh!tty motor

this is why i have a mitsu and not a mazda

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post Sep 19 2007, 06:05 AM
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alot easier to make some crazy power with a rotary to.


ever been in a rx7?

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QUOTE(4G63Attack @ Aug 24 2007, 01:59 PM)
yeah that car was at the DSM shoot out this year.
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yep
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post Sep 19 2007, 07:45 AM
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if this is gonna turn into a flame war, im gonna shut it down. but i will argue in favor of both sides... yes, the torque numbers on a rotary are a little low, but there is an easy fix for that. rotarys are MUCH more reliable than any piston motor though. you can turbo a rotary without replacing any internals and make it scream.

and just because someone agrees that rotarys are better, doesnt mean that he should sell his eclipse for an RX. thats stupid logic.

and now you may say "well if rotary is so good, why doesnt everybody do it?"... well, i dont know, but if i had to guess, its because all the major companies would have to spend a bunch of money on training their mechanics to work on rotarys, and teach their engineers how to develop one. mazda just happens to be the only company whos dished the extra money out to train all these people and push development... but has the effort made them that much more money to really affect the interest of other companies? no. thats what i think.
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QUOTE(greenydsm @ Sep 19 2007, 06:05 AM)
alot easier to make some crazy power with a rotary to.
ever been in a rx7?
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yes i have rode in quite a few, and they arent very impressive to me.
my pops has an 84 corvette with only the timing advanced a few degree's
and there hasnt been a rx car to keep up with it, the last guy we raced had a around 400hp twin turbo 3 rd gen.
im sorry to those who never been in a corvette or muscle for that matter
you can build yourself a 12 sec nova for $3,000 or less and thats including the price of the car,paint, and tires.
besides the fact there arent many rotaries with a 1000hp or more
and ther are more piston engines that have 1000Hp or more than you can count

shitt the 4g63 is capable of 1000hp



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post Sep 19 2007, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(REiGNx4G64 @ Sep 19 2007, 04:11 PM)
yes i have rode in quite a few, and they arent very impressive to me.
my pops has an 84 corvette with only the timing advanced a few degree's
and there hasnt been a rx car to keep up with it, the last guy we raced had a around 400hp twin turbo 3 rd gen.
im sorry to those who never been in a corvette or muscle for that matter
you can build yourself a 12 sec nova for $3,000 or less and thats including the price of the car,paint, and tires.
besides the fact there arent many rotaries with a 1000hp or more
and ther are more piston engines that have 1000Hp or more than you can count

shitt the 4g63 is capable of 1000hp
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are you a freaking retard?

ofcourse you can get in the 12's with a 454 nova

THERES NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT

but hey i like my low insurance and good gas millage

what the hell are you doing with a 4 banger then?

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post Sep 19 2007, 04:27 PM
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sorry if that was a little harsh

i'm in a really bad mood
Back to the subject

that car that eschwans posted

is an amazing car
He could of made the same power with a rotary..

but he just wanted to be different and put a 4g64 engine in her

hell...Ever see the rx7's with the ls1s?

there crazy.


and i wouldnt even talk mr
reign

you have a mighty max

thats pretty damn sad

do ya pick up alot of ladies in it?


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QUOTE(greenydsm @ Sep 19 2007, 04:27 PM)
there crazy.
and i wouldnt even talk mr
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you have a  mighty max

thats pretty damn sad

do ya pick up alot of ladies in it?