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 Engine Tuning Sweden, Step one 250 HP / 400 Nm
 
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post Dec 31 2007, 03:45 AM
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Hej TOJ and Happy New Year-
Congrats to your succesful triming, I´m intrested to do it myself.
Whats the cost or all that?
I´s it leagal to drive i Sweden?
Wich seperat part makes the biggest improvment? the remapping?

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post Jan 2 2008, 12:58 PM
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Hello!

Well of course the "re-mapping" or new software makes a Great difference. But these cars also repond very much on building a new exhaustsystem directly from the turbo.

According to Tuners a normal car gain 10-15 Hp on this but these cars get much more only from that. The reason is a very high resistance in the original system. Partly also that the cars has two cats. One is mounted 10 cm from the turbo which kills the flow and give a really poor spool up/response.

Only by doing this (downpipe 3#, full flow system 2,5-3#, one racecat) the turbo pressure rises and gives you a different car. Only one thing is that it starts cutting as well due to the effect of the this. This means that if you are chosing among one of these two alternatives you should go for the "re-map" first since the standard ECU-software cuts the egine badly otherwise. If you can afford both I seriously recommend the full tuning. It´s like a new car.

www.arctictuning.se for more info.

I hope to download somewhere a movie that shows how the car runs, this has to be done later since now wheels are skidding/spinning wild to 180 km/h, no grip on slippy cold tarmac in Lapland. :)

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post Jan 2 2008, 04:29 PM
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The remapping did by Ecutek or with other ecu remapping ?
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post Jan 2 2008, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(TOJ 123 @ Jan 2 2008, 12:58 PM)
I hope to download somewhere a movie that shows how the car runs, this has to be done later since now wheels are skidding/spinning wild to 180 km/h, no grip on slippy cold tarmac in Lapland. :)

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Hi Tomas!

Good that you are satisfied with the car :-). Give me a call or drop me an e-mail and we can make a clip to show differences some day if you wish, Daniel has my number.
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post Jan 3 2008, 12:33 PM
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TOJ tell me some is yr remap ecutek or not?
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post Jan 4 2008, 10:07 AM
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Hello!

No, Turbocenter Stockholm cooperates with a company in Luleå (arctic Tuning) which have same possibilities to adjust all parameters so not ecutek but same system.

This means std ECU works but is "overwritten" and fully adjusted.

What I know, this system ris eally an improved version since they developed it further. Especially the smoothness is really nice when driving calmly.

Anyhow, works great. In 10 degrees boost is approx 1,25-1,3, when colder 1,3 and maybe a bit higher.

It´s impossible to compare to std car. It like a diesel vs rocket :)

KristofferB has en EVO IX, they made his car as well. ECU+exhaust, runs low 12 on 402 m, 0-100 approx 4 or lower. You can also ask him what he believes about their system.

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post Jan 7 2008, 08:45 AM
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Thats all very nice that you are saying to us.
We wish that there was a possibility for us to visit Sweden with our cars and tune them there instead!
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post Jan 7 2008, 02:50 PM
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Hello all!

If you are interested in tuning yr cars, pls ask www.arctictuning.se if you can send ECU-box to them and have yr car updated. You will with that have to have yr car out of use for some time due to postal service delilvery time, but there are always flight possibilities.

In that case you will receive a standard "map" for car with or without re-built exhaustsystem.

I don´t know but if possibly but it doesn´t hurt asking :)

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post Jan 7 2008, 05:02 PM
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It can be nice... great power with good fuel consuption :-) If you can let's take some video . How much did you pay for the remapping ?
I ordered my tactrix cable, i dont know can I use it for Outlander... In HU supposedly Ecutek is available for Outy, but the prize is hard...

Under your Outy there is 3" turbo back exhaust with a only race cat and highflow muffler ?
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post Jan 8 2008, 02:06 PM
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Hello!

I had a special price but I think you can have it "mapped" for approx 900 Euros +freight. Approx price.

I have a straight stainless steel tube of 3 inches from turbo a until you reach middle of car. Under the car approx where seats are I have a racecat. Full flow system straight out in the exhaust with only one small bend 30 degress curved. Full flow muffler.

I have a special device to the inlet of the air, it´s a self built, in steel, like a wing in the front that leads the air into intake. Full flow filter doesn´t increase power that much but nicer sound and perhaps better response.

I also have an intercooler fan.

It´s is now coming more snow the last days and the car "skidds/is spinning.." on 4 th gear in 60 km/h on all 4 wheels, it´s really strong. I have had 4 quattro cars before this one so I know it takes to do this :) Nice power!

I have a video but it´s spinning/skidding a lot on 1, 2 and 3 gear. On 4 th only 10-15 % of grip is lost (skidding) so that shows something but I will try later to make a new video. Sound and acc is nice. Could upload this to start with but better with one where you really can see acc.

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post Jan 9 2008, 08:16 AM
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Hello TOJ.

I spoke yesterday with artictuning and they have told me that we can ship the ECU to Sweden for tuning. Alternatively I can tranfer it my own when I will visit Stocholm some time in the near future.
900 EUROS was the price only for the ECU reprogramming? How much is the cost for your exhaust system also?
It will be great to give us some 0-100 values in seconds as well as some acceleration figures such as 60-100 with 3rd gear, 110-150 with 5th and so on...
Also it could be great to dynometer your car to measure its Hp & Nm.
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post Jan 11 2008, 04:51 AM
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Ecutek is near the same prize ~1000euro.

I will be concerned the sound of the new exhaust. with the 3" downpipe and a 3" free flow resonator the sound was not change too much the sound.

What is turbo boost that your Outy run after the remapping ?

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post Jan 12 2008, 11:42 AM
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Hello!

I´m running approx 1.3 bar.

Some test made on winterroads in LAPLAND with high friction wintertires, pls do NOT compare driving on dry summerroads. This test made with 0,5 cm wet snow, due to salted roads, on the road. Like when driving on thicker water. Due to the fact that we have winter for 4 months from now these are figures I will hand out, movies also made.

All test made with Nokian wintertires 215 mm wide, 17 inches, high rolling resistance compared to summertires, full with lamels and 140 spikes. -2 degress and 0,5 wet snow on the road.

To compare…pls use similar tires and remember, this was with wet snow on the road, like when you drive through water. High resistance in other words. Will do new tests after winter.

Quite calm shifting between gears also. Much can be saved.

With a dry road, summertires and quicker shifting much time can be lowered. :blush-anim-cl:

60-180 4 th gear 14,09 sec

60-140 3rd gear7,19 sec

80-120 3,28 sec 3 rd gear

20-100 4,97, bad grip. Approx 5 sec. 0,5 wet snow on road due to salted roads. Lost traction on 1th gear, skidd/slip in this timing :)

20-177 km/h approx 17,56 sec bad grip gear 1 and of course 2nd etc, bit wet snow on road.


100-150 6,4 s full throttle over gears

40-150 11,09 s full throttle over gears.

40-130 7,38 s

But remember that I eill do new tests and that this is winterconditions.

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post Jan 12 2008, 04:47 PM
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Impressive numbers ! :-)
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post Jan 13 2008, 06:02 AM
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Hello!

Video on youtube.com search for Outlander Turbo Test from TomasJ12345.

Bad grip, and calm shifting gears. //TOJ
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post Jan 13 2008, 07:16 AM
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Hello!

I don´t know if the youtube link works properly but serach for Outlander Turbo test and you´ll see the movie I uploaded. Will upload one also when drivning on 4 th gear.

Will call that one Outlander Turbo Test 4th gear.

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post Jan 14 2008, 07:37 AM
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QUOTE(TOJ 123 @ Jan 12 2008, 11:42 AM)
100-150 6,4 s full throttle over gears

40-150 11,09 s full throttle over gears.

40-130 7,38 s

But remember that I eill do new tests and that this is winterconditions.

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With what gear are these measurements?
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post Jan 14 2008, 08:40 AM
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These figures are "over the gears"= shifting gears and best possible of course. As an example the acc from 40 km/h is when starting on second gear etc.

Though with wintertires, 140 spikes, full of lamells, 215 mm wide and bit wet snow on the road, I compared to one movie I made before with skidding on 1-3 gear, but saw that 4 gear goes much faster on that movie.

These figures are a bit higher (not as quick as last time) due to 0,5 cm wet snow on the road.
It at least show something about how quick it has become.

I have uploaded a video with acc on 4th gear on youtube as well, 40-180 km/h.

We have two Outlander Turbos, one is mine with the tuned car and one standard, big difference in performance.

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Thanks for the video, much better than it was. There is video on the yotube about a stock Outlander on dry road, If we compare it with the remapping your car is much faster !
The exhaust has deeper sound :-P
With spiked wintertyres coud be a nice fun in snow. some weeks ago I drove 300km here in the mountains at snow, I enjoyed it so much just be carefull :-P
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