I finally have money to fix up my car 99 eclipse gs. But im not sure what to start with performance wise. What is a must when first fixing up my engine????? Appreciate the help

Tune up. Make sure everything around the engine isn't going to break. 60k tune up, then start with the mods.

Yeah......before you buy anything, decide if you want to stay N/A, or go F/I. Cause that will change intake placement, and exhaust size.

after a tune up, id start off with some basic bolt-ons like header, exhaust, intake, and then go into a lil more harder mods like new pistons, rods, and a crank. cause you have to decide if you want to boost your car, and if so a strong internal motor will only be in your favor cause you now have a motor that can handle the abuse of a turbo setup. throw in a short shifter, some coil-overs a front and rear strut tower, new pulley's ands new cam gears and your in business

That'd be a lot of dough tho. How much do you have to work with if you don't mind me asking?

Please just turbo her.. She'll be happier that way and so will you. :laughing:

yeah till it blows up

well it depends on what your budget is

you can build a pretty solid all motor motor for around 2500 3 grand max? the only bad part is the good products are the pricy ones like the eagle pistons rods and crank is by itself 1750? around that range, plus the install and that may be another 500. so its all about what you want to see in the end. then go from there and start gettin prices.

if he wants to go F/I, then its not necessary to get intake and exhaust yet. That's why I said dont get them yet. If he goes turbo, he's gonna want 3" tbe, if not f/i, then 2.5 is all he needs.

So he needs to decide f/i or not before he buys anything. Cause he doesn't want to have to redo anything.

He is only gonna be pushing like 8 psi if he does turbo, so he really doesn't need a 3". Unless you're running a e3 16g with high boost (or better) you can get the same numbers with a 2.5".

If he builds the internals, then you can boost a 420a up to 20psi and be fine. Cause you have that crate sitting on top of your crankshaft.

WHICH, would mean that he could be using a 3" exhaust just fine. And if you'rethrowing a turbo on your car, why would you want anything smaller than a 16g? I hated the t25. Even the 14b is too small.

I say forged internals, 3inch everything, AFPR, 450ccs with MSnS, 23psi allday.

Dude, I know alot of people are telling you to put on the bolt-ons but thats a huge waste of time and money. Go turbo is the only way you are ever going make any power and thats the bottom line. Hahn makes some great kits and I think you should look into it.

Its your call but over the past year ive went through all the bolt ons, nitrous and finally a turbo. The only money not wasted, was the money for the turbo and parts post-turbo.

Yeah what ^^^^ said... Ur not gonna be disappointed with hahn. The inventor Bill Hahn ran his 420a turbo with nitrous, stock cams and head at 10.86 in a 1/4 mile.. muahahaha :gunsmilie:

didnt we have a thread like this a while back? im still sticking with my views of having a fully built motor done right. its one thing to have a modded turbo setup running stock internals, cams and a few other parts. mabye iits just me cause i have a n/a 4g63 but i really dont like boost that much. isnt that just asking for something to go boom and break? then your what out whatever you broke, have to pay for that part again, and think its just a huge nightmare running stock internals with a huge turbo setup.

ok so what if someone put a few g's into new internals, new cams package, and did the basic boltons, but designed for a turbo like a 3inch exhaust from downpipe to muffler, and a huge intake manifold also? i think after building a 4g63 motor that way, THEN throw on a evo turbo setup then wouldnt you have a 9second ride?

Bottom line, if you're going to boost more than like 8-10psi then you are gonna need forged internals. Ik that the hahn stage 2 only runs like 8-10 psi tho, or so i assume since thats what azndrew2 runs. With that kinda boost you can get same numbers with 2.5" exhaust.

So his options are
1) Spend one A$$ load of money, forged internals, and 20 lbs boost
2) Hahn stage 2, 8 psi (still some dec power) with a lot less expense.

Go big or go home!