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> Cai Or Sri?, Whats better?
lancerpower4b11
post May 7 2008, 02:36 PM
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im still sticking with k&n they havent released anything other than my post link above from a R&D and there was no official dyno taken for it yet, and im looking for low end power because it will be great, and im also looking into the evo x hood or the cf hood from rrm to get more cold air into the intake area. i would get the injen cai but i want to wait and compare prices and everything first before making final decision (sorry to hear about ppl with fujita intakes) thats why im waiting and thats why k&n is taking a long time to make it perfect for the customer.
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post May 7 2008, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(CorzyPhoto @ May 7 2008, 09:10 AM)
If you want more low end power, get the SRI... If you want more highend (and overall) power, get the CAI. I had a CAI in my Mazda3 and loved it. Just be careful with deep puddles so you don't hydrolock.
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Since dyno charts aren't that reliable, the Fujita SRI shows about 8 hp and 5 tq over standard. The Injen CAI shows about 10 hp and 11 tq over standard. So why do people still insist that they'll buy SRI over CAI?
I had the Fujita as I said before, and that thing kicked in at around 3500 or 4000 rpm.

And for the hydrolock, is it a drop of water or a ton of water that will cause hydrolock?
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post May 7 2008, 05:21 PM
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but when it kicks in when the MIVEC kicks in then whats the point of doubling up on those rpms and not just add more low end torque to get to those rpms faster and make a faster 0-60?
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post May 7 2008, 05:45 PM
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Hydrolocking won't occur with a drop of water. Not even a cup. First of all, your entire air filter has to be submerged in water for it to occur. Plus, I heard that the lancer isn't powerful enough to even suck up water all the way into the engine. So I don't pay mind to it. I had the injen cai for a couple months and it seems to be working great.
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post May 7 2008, 08:16 PM
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great info guys, thanks
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Just installed my Injen CAI yesterday and I can tell you it's worth every friggen cent.

It starts off quiet, then around 3500-4000RPM starts to gulp in air like a fiend. BEST FRIGEN MOD EVER! It SCREAMS!
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I agree. It sounds really good. Though after you put in the greddy exhaust, you won't hear the injen anymore cause the exhaust is so loud lol.
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QUOTE(lonnieg3 @ May 9 2008, 06:29 PM)
Just installed my Injen CAI yesterday and I can tell you it's worth every friggen cent.

It starts off quiet, then around 3500-4000RPM starts to gulp in air like a fiend. BEST FRIGEN MOD EVER! It SCREAMS!
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What's the MPG gain look like? The main reason why I'm still waiting for K&N's SRI is because warm air helps with combustion and thus, gives a better MPG gain than a cold air intake.

I'm aiming for the "conservative performer." =D
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QUOTE(freakingwilly @ May 9 2008, 07:34 PM)
What's the MPG gain look like?  The main reason why I'm still waiting for K&N's SRI is because warm air helps with combustion and thus, gives a better MPG gain than a cold air intake.

I'm aiming for the "conservative performer."  =D
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are you sure, i thought that colder air being less dense makes better mpg and better combustion? and i think the k&N sri comes with a heatshield
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QUOTE(freakingwilly @ May 9 2008, 09:34 PM)
What's the MPG gain look like?  The main reason why I'm still waiting for K&N's SRI is because warm air helps with combustion and thus, gives a better MPG gain than a cold air intake.

I'm aiming for the "conservative performer."  =D
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And even better news, the dealer said it won't be a warranty issue with them, so I can keep it on for servicing appointments. (although I usually just go to Midas).

Ummm...MPG gain. Well to be honest I have never really kept track of the MPG in the first place. It will probably take a week or so of driving to and from work etc, before I truly notice a difference.

I think you should just go for the CAI, colder air is always a better performer and torque gainer;) Realistically the MPG changes will be minimal from an SRI to a CAI.
This is my third ram air and probably the best yet.

I am not sure thou if warm air is better for combustion then cold air.
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post May 11 2008, 05:13 AM
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QUOTE(freakingwilly @ May 9 2008, 04:34 PM)
What's the MPG gain look like?  The main reason why I'm still waiting for K&N's SRI is because warm air helps with combustion and thus, gives a better MPG gain than a cold air intake.

I'm aiming for the "conservative performer."  =D
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Warm air is really bad for the engine. Imagine driving your car in a 105F weather.
I had the Fujita and it sounded good. But I was concerned about the hot air.
But with the Injen, that worry is gone. Also, it operates similar to the stock intake.

I love my INJEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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post May 11 2008, 07:31 AM
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Looks like I will get the Injen. The more I read on it, the more me likey!
Now if there was only an easy way to install it
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QUOTE(SixFeetDeep @ May 11 2008, 09:31 AM)
Looks like I will get the Injen. The more I read on it, the more me likey!
Now if there was only an easy way to install it
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Access the lower engine compartment through the drivers side foglamp housing and under the bumper itself via the drivers side front wheel well. Just remove the couple bolts and voila!
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QUOTE(SixFeetDeep @ May 11 2008, 04:31 AM)
Looks like I will get the Injen. The more I read on it, the more me likey!
Now if there was only an easy way to install it
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I had mine installed at a shop because I don't have the tools.
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For the last time, colder air is better for the engine which is why the cold air intakes work better than short ram intakes like fujita or k & n. The injen cold air intake was not hard to install. I didn't even take the bumper off. The plastic foglight cover and the bottom plastic mud guard underneath the front of the car was all that had to be removed anyway. The greddy exhaust was more annoying to install because of the rubber pieces.
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When I answered this question, I simply Googled "warm air intakes and MPG" or something of the like and responded with whatever the results gave me. I am ashamed of myself of this because I normally like to use facts and statistics combined with good ol' common sense. So here's my response... and it actually disproves my previous post!

Cold air is denser than warm air, which means you can get more air into the car with a CAI when compared to a SRI. That's the job of an intake... to get air into the car. You want the one that gives you more air than the others. So when it comes to that, the CAI wins.

If you punch it, the CAI will GULP in massive amounts of air, but the car will adjust by adding more fuel to the mixture in order to keep a proper air to fuel ratio. If it doesn't adjust, the car will run lean (BAD). This is where MPG would suffer.

On the other hand, if you drive conservatively, the intake doesn't have to work as hard as the stock intake to get in the same amount of air. The CAI lets your car to do the same amount of work with less strain when compared to the stock intake.

So, if you drive conservative, you should see an MPG gain. If you leadfoot, you'll see the MPG loss. This response really poops on my last post :grin: