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Sep 23 2008, 11:59 PM
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Well, shit, if you're giving them a call and don't mind mentioning my predicament, that would be very much appreciated, thanks. If they need a shipment reference, it was probably the last one shipped to Winnipeg, MB. I've never bought a product from all accounts seems to be a very reputable company and been shit scared to actually use it how it's intended.. this is bizarre and disappointing. I was looking forward to the process.
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Sep 24 2008, 07:38 PM
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Ok so I changed the wires and it still doesn't work. Here is my circuit again...
The Green wire goes to the cars Red/White Wire. The Red wire goes to the cars Black/White wire. The Black wire goes to the mobile HID harness Black Wire. The Yellow wire goes to the Mobile HID Blue wire.
Parts used:
4.7uF 35V cap IRF510 Mosfet 9006 cables 27k 47k + 1.5k
So this still has the same problem where the DRL's are not disabled and just make a really loud hum and flicker. The lights still work if I turn them on though.
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Sep 24 2008, 08:11 PM
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Just kidding.... all fixed. I actually had the female ends reversed. So I put the male ends back and switched the female ends. All is right with the world.
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Sep 25 2008, 03:54 PM
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As I suspected, I did.
However, I've run into an odd situation. I've used the exact values for resistors and caps here (except 2.2uF 50v instead of 25v) and while the DRLs are bypassed when the ignition is off, as soon as I start the car, the relay is clicking like mad. The lamps are still off until I turn them on manually (which results in a couple of bulb flickers as they're turning on), but when the car is on and the switch is in position 1 or 2, the relay is just going mental. This will kill the relay in short order..
Anybody else take a listen to their harness relay when the car is on and the lamps are not in the fully on position? I've inspected all my solder connections, redid a bunch to make them cleaner, and the only thing I can think of it's either 1) a bummed relay (though it works fine when the car is off) 2) the capacitor is insufficient
I'm taking a run out to pick up one a bit beefier, but I'm stumped otherwise
[edit] 4.7uF, 10uF, cleaned and resoldered the connections.. the relay still chatters endlessly while the lights are in DRL mode with the engine running (but only when it's running). add to that one of the bulbs is damaged on the outside glass housing, and it's flickering quite a bit upon start and warm-up. this is just a warranty issue waiting to happen.
sigh.
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Sep 25 2008, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE(klaysta @ Sep 24 2008, 08:11 PM) Just kidding.... all fixed. I actually had the female ends reversed. So I put the male ends back and switched the female ends. All is right with the world. [right][snapback]208127[/snapback][/right]
so wait.. you have the female (blue) connector attached to the 50k ohm resistor series and the drain (center pole) of the mosfet?
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Sep 25 2008, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(sordid @ Sep 25 2008, 03:54 PM) As I suspected, I did.
However, I've run into an odd situation. I've used the exact values for resistors and caps here (except 2.2uF 50v instead of 25v) and while the DRLs are bypassed when the ignition is off, as soon as I start the car, the relay is clicking like mad. The lamps are still off until I turn them on manually (which results in a couple of bulb flickers as they're turning on), but when the car is on and the switch is in position 1 or 2, the relay is just going mental. This will kill the relay in short order..
Anybody else take a listen to their harness relay when the car is on and the lamps are not in the fully on position? I've inspected all my solder connections, redid a bunch to make them cleaner, and the only thing I can think of it's either 1) a bummed relay (though it works fine when the car is off) 2) the capacitor is insufficient
I'm taking a run out to pick up one a bit beefier, but I'm stumped otherwise [edit] 4.7uF, 10uF, cleaned and resoldered the connections.. the relay still chatters endlessly while the lights are in DRL mode with the engine running (but only when it's running). add to that one of the bulbs is damaged on the outside glass housing, and it's flickering quite a bit upon start and warm-up. this is just a warranty issue waiting to happen.
sigh. [right][snapback]208481[/snapback][/right]
Can't be a warranty issue if you are doing a DRL bypass. Unplug your bypass and the HIDs should work normally when they are on. I hear nothing coming out of my relay. My DRL bypass has given me no problems at all. Can you list all the parts and their respective values? I know you are using a 4.7uF 50v capacitor, but are you sure your capacitor is polarized? I made the mistake of buying a non-polarized capacitor on my first run. What kind of resistors too? Are you soldering the resistors in line to get the necessary resistance? What happened to the pictures of your DRL bypass? I'd like to take a second look at your connections and resistors. If the ratio is insufficient, then the DRL bypass won't work. Pictures really would make this much easier :grin:
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Sep 25 2008, 10:22 PM
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By warranty I didn't mean Mitsubishi :) The pictures were removed because I buggered up the sides each plug should be on, but now I'm not so sure. I'm using two 100uF in parallel creating a verified 50uF, and a 27 + 1 in series to create 28. My cap a polarized radial electrolytic 4.4uF/50v. All my inner connections are verified to be correct.. the only thing I can possibly think is in error is my harness polarity. Tested, the oem harness is putting 12v to the red wire at all times. Am I somehow supposed to use the black wire on the harness as hot? Looking at the picture posted above, it seems that the female and male ends are completely switched around according to the instructions -- the female end tieing into the train rather than the male end. in DRL mode, the lamps are not on -- which could be a result of the different ballast I have -- but the relay is going absolutely insane with chatter. that tells me the whole bypass is being, well, bypassed. I redid the whole thing and I saw the lamps pop on a couple times very briefly in DRL mode, but I rechecked my wiring and i forgot to connect a resistor. I haven't tested it again since, but it's the same circuit as last time.. the only variable here must be the plug polarities. [edit] I nuked the proto board and did it using the ol' pillbox method. Here's what mine looks like now: (IMG:http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8064/img1443ek6.th.jpg) The black wire on the male end lines up to the red wire on the OEM harness which shows 12v all the time. The black wire on the female end lines up to the red wire as well.. it was salvaged from a Honda -- what can I say about their colour scheme. as i have it: black (+) from both plugs to 50k ohm resistor, to gate red (-) from male plug to drain red (-) from female to source 4.7uF 50v cap between source and gate with positive on gate 28k ohm between source and gate [edit x2] oh freaking duh. it took rereading afeudale's post about the gender of the cables for it to finally kick in -- i had it backwards. I was confusing the two cables. DRLs are bypassed with no relay chatter. the cabling is a bitch with the external ignitor.. 100km shake-down: so far so good.
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Nov 15 2008, 03:44 PM
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Hey All,
I have a 2007 Outlander with the whole DRL mess when I try to install aftermarket HID's. I was wondering if one of you guys who has sucessfully built the bypass could build another pair and sell me to me. I know how to solder, im totally fine with that, but just dont have the time to mess around with this trying to get it correct. Does anyone know where they sell a kit, or a pre assembled bypass? OR how much do you want for a completed one? Thanks in advance!
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Feb 4 2009, 08:31 PM
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Ok, so to bring up a dead thread, I contacted MobileHID a while back about the slim ballasts crapping out in winter. After a few weeks, they got back to me, and he shipped me out a set of the "heavy duty thick ballasts" -- the same ones they used before by the looks of it.
So I removed the old ones, had to wait until it was closer to 0C so that the zip ties wouldn't snap the moment they were bent, and braved the cold for the install. Redid the DRL bypass in a project box, and I'm happy to report that even in -20C they fire up quick and haven't blinked out yet. But who knows what will happen in the future.
On an interesting note, I guess it's because one of the bulbs was newer than the other one, but it was lighting up slightly greenish instead. I expect that will change the more they're used, but I can now happily report that I can actually see the road at night again even after some jackass in a SUV sprays up dirty snow all over my headlights.
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