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 Gas Saver?, Can this be true???
 
fullmoon
post May 9 2008, 09:32 PM
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I was listening to coast to coast this morning and Yeaaaa I was looking up in the Nevada sky for UFO's as I was driving :alien:

But sad to say I did not see any :crying:

But what really woke me up was this gas saver heard them talking about, Can this really be true and or work??? :hyper:

It really seems that this HHO gas save'n' stuff is flying around the net a lot lately.

http://www.hho4gas.com/

If it does work I can use it to reduce my NOx after I install some hi comp pistons so I can pass the smog test. :thumbsup:
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post May 9 2008, 09:59 PM
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they have already discussed this a bit in another thread.
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post May 9 2008, 10:18 PM
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Yea I remember but it seems to go a bit farther this kit includes somthing to trick the ECU to run leaner while claiming the HHO cools it I'm gonna hafta take this info to the Pasadena lab and see what they think.
Some guy called into the show and said he wroked for Mazda and they are doing the same thing.
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post May 10 2008, 06:57 AM
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they did something like this on mythbusters and it didn't even start the car.
it was busted
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post May 11 2008, 12:14 PM
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i dont even know what to say this just doesnt make any since to me how you stick stick a jelly jar and some boost controllers and tubes on your car and run hydrogen from water.
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post May 12 2008, 04:05 AM
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QUOTE(bryan_root @ May 11 2008, 12:14 PM)
i dont even know what to say this just doesnt make any since to me how you stick stick a jelly jar and some boost controllers and tubes on your car and run hydrogen from water.
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Actually it will work. It's how honda is making their hydrogen fuel cell vehicle.

The electric current and chemicals separate the hydrogen from the oxygen. When they become separate gases they can both be injected into your intake system. Hydrogen is highly combustible. Take the Hindenburg for instance. This way you have fuel and hydrogen as your combustible agent.
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post May 12 2008, 04:25 AM
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It says money back guarantee so I'm gonna try it next week. I'll let you know the results.
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post May 12 2008, 08:31 AM
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QUOTE(fullmoon @ May 9 2008, 10:18 PM)
Yea I remember but it seems to go a bit farther this kit includes somthing to trick the ECU to run leaner while claiming the HHO cools it I'm gonna hafta take this info to the Pasadena lab and see what they think.
Some guy called into the show and said he wroked for Mazda and they are doing the same thing.
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I wouldn't do that. the HHo does not run cooler, it burns almost 15times faster for a more violent combustion in the cylinder. If timing is not retarded you will end up with connecting rods going through your block

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Actually it will work. It's how honda is making their hydrogen fuel cell vehicle.

The electric current and chemicals separate the hydrogen from the oxygen. When they become separate gases they can both be injected into your intake system. Hydrogen is highly combustible. Take the Hindenburg for instance. This way you have fuel and hydrogen as your combustible agent.
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hydrogen fuel cells use hydrogen yes, but they use the hydrogen to power the batteries, that power their electric engine, that drives the wheels. As far as I know there isn't any vehicle being produced that burns hydrogen in the internal combustion engine.

However, it can be done with pressurized hydrogen. The amazing thing is that you can eliminate the throttle body on vehicles and leave the intake system wide open to the engine because hydrogen internal combustion technology is not atmospheric air dependent. This means that you can leave the vehicle at wide open throttle and it will only accelerate or decelerate depending on how much hydrogen is injected. It has nothing to do with air volume like gasoline needs.

the chemicals have nothing to do with it other than being electrolytes for raising the amperage. Baking soda and household fish tank PH chemicals are the only ones needed.

It's simple eletrolysis. Electrolysis is the process that uses a DC current to seperate atom bonds. Passing the DC current at a high amperage through closely spaced plates will cause the hydrogen and oxygen bonds in the water to split forming HHO gas. The only gas that is produced is HHO. The nonpressurized HHO is then routed into the intake charge (usually through a poorly constructed hose) that creates a more favorable environment for combustion. This will in turn create better bang bang in the cylinder and when you have better power power you need to use less gas to get up to speed. Therefore, using less gas to get there, better mpg

It's a similar concept to installing a K&N filter or using high octane gas. Except in this case you are using a ton of electricity to produce a gas from water instead of buying better gas or a performance filter.
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post May 12 2008, 08:45 AM
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One thing I forgot to mention:

it is for ECONOMICAL driving conditions only. it will not affect high throttle performance.
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post May 12 2008, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(Turd Ferguson @ May 12 2008, 02:25 AM)
It says money back guarantee so I'm gonna try it next week. I'll let you know the results.
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I'd do it but I'm the tail-end of paying my car off please let us know how it turns out :thumbsup:
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