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Daps
post Jun 1 2008, 04:46 PM
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I just got my 03 GT Eclipse Automatic with the sidestick shifter back from my Ex wife. I had to put a new battery on it because when she returned it the battery was bad. Tried driving it and got to a stop sign and it just went dead, no power steering nothing. Cranked it back up acted like it didnt want to go into gear. Got to another stop sign acted like it didnt want to go into gear but jumped a litte and went on, seemed like it switched gears without a problem. Got it back to the house, hit the brake to turn in and the car went dead.

A guy at work recommended cleaning the throttle body for the dying and try driving it so that the computer would relearn the shifting for the transmission. Did that. Had my cousin come by the house Friday and change the oil also, brakes, air filter. Drove it around the city and it drove pretty good. No problem going into D or R. Drove it at speeds of 40-50mph. Decided today I would put it on the interstate coming from the store. Got up to around 60mph or so I guess and then the engine just reved real high like it went into neutrual.

Got over to the side of the interstate. The Service Engine Light was on. Turned the car off. Cranked it back up and put it in D no dice, it wouldnt go into gear. it just set there and would rev but wouldnt go into any gear. I had it towed back to the house. It was only $55 and the insurance will take care of that

Any ideas of what it could be? Transmission, Sensor, Belts? The Service Engine Light Soon is on now. Like I said its an automatic btw. If it was a manual I would've thought maybe clutch. So I'm open to suggestions and what kind of cost I'm looking at. I work at an automotive distribution warehouse and we have a portable device that can read codes. I may see if I can get the tech to run by the house to see if there are any codes in there.

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post Jun 2 2008, 03:56 AM
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QUOTE(Daps @ Jun 1 2008, 04:46 PM)
I just got my 03 GT Eclipse Automatic with the sidestick shifter back from my Ex wife. I had to put a new battery on it because when she returned it the battery was bad. Tried driving it and got to a stop sign and it just went dead, no power steering nothing. Cranked it back up acted like it didnt want to go into gear. Got to another stop sign acted like it didnt want to go into gear but jumped a litte and went on, seemed like it switched gears without a problem. Got it back to the house, hit the brake to turn in and the car went dead.

A guy at work recommended cleaning the throttle body for the dying and try driving it so that the computer would relearn the shifting for the transmission. Did that. Had  my cousin come by the house Friday and change the oil also, brakes, air filter. Drove it around the city and it drove pretty good. No problem going into D or R. Drove it at speeds of 40-50mph. Decided today I would put it on the interstate coming from the store. Got up to around 60mph or so I guess and then the engine just reved real high like it went into neutrual.

Got over to the side of the interstate. The Service Engine Light was on. Turned the car off. Cranked it back up and put it in D no dice, it wouldnt go into gear. it just set there and would rev but wouldnt go into any gear. I had it towed back to the house. It was only $55 and the insurance will take care of that

Any ideas of what it could be? Transmission, Sensor, Belts? The Service Engine Light Soon is on now. Like I said its an automatic btw. If it was a manual I would've thought maybe clutch. So I'm open to suggestions and what kind of cost I'm looking at.  I work at an automotive distribution warehouse and we have a portable device that can read codes. I may see if I can get the tech to run by the house to see if there are any codes in there.

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Refer to the online service manual at the top of the page in the 3g forum. It'll have the answer most likely and how to fix it, that would be the first place I check if I were you.
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post Jun 2 2008, 10:41 AM
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torque convertor?
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post Jun 2 2008, 12:43 PM
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No idea. Would the torque converter show up on a scanner?

You know I didnt even check the dern fluid levels when it was running. I'm going to go home at lunch, crank it up, shift the gears and then check the fluids. If it's low I'm going to be miffed if thats the problem I doubt thats it though.

I looked through the guide thats the poster mentioned and ran across something about N flashing and I do remember it flashing but at the time didnt think anything about it because I was a little ticked and it was hot.

The guy at work said to check the fluids so I'm going to do that and he would put the code reader on it sometime this week but said he wouldnt know what to do with the codes, i'm guessing someone here will be able to help me with those i hope.


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post Jun 2 2008, 01:24 PM
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I think there are error codes posted here somewhere.

Do a search for the thread.

Happy hunting. :57:
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post Jun 2 2008, 05:57 PM
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Guy came over and read the codes. the only code was a P0734 Gear 4 Incorrect Ratio.

It still won't go into gear. He said the fluid didnt smell burnt and looked ok. He said he's not a auto transmission guy so tomorrow when we get to work he'll see what he can find out. He said maybe its the torque converter but really doesn't know.

Any of you guys have any idea of what this code means?
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post Jun 2 2008, 07:46 PM
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Make sure the control module for the transmission is working correctly and try replacing. If the problem persists, your transmission will most likely need to be rebuilt.
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post Jun 2 2008, 10:08 PM
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How can you tell if it's the control module? How much does one of those cost?
Crap not looking to have that freaking thing rebuilt.

Looks like I better start saving some cash because I dont do credit oh well at least I have another car but hate it'll be sitting there for a few months :(
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you get the computer module from a car wrecker

much cheaper than repairing your own

torque converter may be the problem

but try the module first

undo the battery terminals to reset the computers
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post Jun 3 2008, 07:58 AM
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Ok not to sound dumb because I'm not a car guy, computers I do all day long but cars not so much.

So I just call around and I'm asking for a control module for an 03 Eclipse correct? Is that something I can install myself with no special tools and easy to do?

I'm thinking about pulling the battery to reset the computer and hooking it backup to see if the car will go into gear.

I just got the car back a few days ago from my ex wife, it needed a battery. I bought a new one took it out drove it, got to a stop sign and the engine died, cranked back up turned around, to get back to the house and when i stepped on the brake it died, cranked it and it acted like it didnt want to go into gear. Guys at work said to clean the throttle body and that should fix the dying, did that it and it did stop the car from dying, they also told me i just had to drive it so the computer would relearn the shifting. It seemed to ok

Cousin did an oil change on it last friday, air filter and drove it around with no probems, brother took it to fill it up, put some seafoam in the gas, no problems, I drove it around no problems till sunday and the interstate is when i had the failure.

The only code from the scanner was the one I listed above. I'm thinking about having it towed and put on a bi directional scanner.

Sorry for sounding like a car newbie, except for the small easy stuff

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If you're not a "car guy", trying to diagnose this problem is not what you should be doing. Take it to a mechanic.
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post Jun 3 2008, 12:07 PM
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I'm going to have it taken to a shop two co workers suggested as being very good with transmissions and honest,they both known the guy for years.

Just wanted so ideas. I have a cousin who is a mechanic but not sure how far he goes into transmissions and things like that.

Well I got the codes and the info from out Alldata computer(same stuff in the service manual it looks like)

I'll send that info when I decide to have it looked at.
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Its the PCM, Powertrain Control Module, our car, has one, its the same as an ECU but works only for the transmission, which decides when the change gears, what speed, and how rough. Thats the problem ur having bro, not ur transmission, it wouldnt work and not work sometimes if its ur torque converter, plus, a messed up Torque converter doesnt turn the car off.. Replace it, i suggest mitsubishi dealer, a lil pricier, but they have the latest model plus they have a year warranty and theyl know better.
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post Jun 3 2008, 10:01 PM
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The car hasn't turned off since I cleaned the throttle body up until sunday it ran fine but then I never got over 60 until I hit the interstate. After I got it on the interstate it rev'd high like it wasnt in gear and ever since then I can't get it to go into gear. No reverse,D or nothing cranks right up and runs with no problem engine sounds good. Only error code I got was the one listed above. Had to two guys at work check the transmission fluids and the said it didnt smell burnt nor was it grimey so I'm hoping it's not too bad transmission wise and just something computer related. I would've thought it would've gave me another code if it was the PCM other than the gear ratio one but heck if I know

I just have to decide where to have it towed and see what it's going to cost me. The guy my two co workers recommend is one of the best shops in the city, they both know the guy pretty good, he used to rebuild one of their race cars transmission and said he was higher than most but when he tells you something about your car thats what it is. Plus I've talked to two others that had him service their vehicles.

Thanks for all the suggestions guys keep'em coming if you have any
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How many miles/years for your car?That might be covered under powertrain warranty.
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post Jun 3 2008, 11:16 PM
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GT 2003 96K miles bought it used in 04
Think I'm out of luck with that one
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