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 Nitrogen Filled Tires, My experience with nitrogen
 
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post Jun 3 2008, 09:06 PM
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Hello All,
About 4 months ago I had nitrogen put into my tires. My understanding is that it holds pressure more consistently. So anyways my TPMS was constantly going off in the winter and ever since that day the nitrogen went in... No problems. I'd recommend it to anyone, let me know if you've had the same experience
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post Jun 5 2008, 09:00 PM
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I somewhat recently read an article in Consumer Report that stated that even if you have Nitrogen in the tires, that you are still going to lose air presure, but not as quickly. I can't remember exactly...it was something like if the air lost 3 psi, then the Nitrogen would lose 1 pound of presure.
They pretty much said not to bother with the Nitrogen only because you would have to pay for it & they concluded no real benefit.
Now I know that this could be argued....that the Nitrogen is supposed to keep the tires cooler & are supposed to keep the tires from wearing out as quickly because of keeping them cooler...but IMHO, they charge way too much for this. If I could have it done for free...then yes, I would give it a try, otherwise...no.

Maybe you just had a glich with your TPMS & the cars computer needed to somehow reset itself....maybe you had a slow leak or ?????
But if it is working for you, then great!
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post Jun 5 2008, 09:52 PM
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Yeah I mean they didn't charge me much at all to get the nitrogen in the tires. The place by me does it for $20 even, i think it is a cheap price to begin with though, haha. In the summer the TPMS should be good but what really impressed me was the ability to not have the indicator light during the winter that's when all the problems arose. If it's 30 out one day and the light comes on I could fill it and if the next day was 5 the light was on.
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post Jun 5 2008, 09:56 PM
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Weird.....Oswego huh....I go through there from time to time doin my deliveries.


Maybe the dealerhsip forgot to check something or reset something...it's weird that it only happens when it is really cold out :frozen:
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post Jun 8 2008, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(SixFeetDeep @ Jun 5 2008, 09:56 PM)
Weird.....Oswego huh....I go through there from time to time doin my deliveries.
Maybe the dealerhsip forgot to check something or reset something...it's weird that it only happens when it is  really cold out :frozen:
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HMMM.... I live in CA, and my car seems to have an issue with teh tire pressure being "low" after it sits outisde in the cold for a while too. And by "cold" I mean like 55 degree temperatures. The TPMS warning has come on several times in this scenario, but then after I drive for a little (and the tires warm up I assume) the TPMS warning goes away. I am going to check my tires pressure now, just to confirm, but has anyone else had similar problems in what are moderate temperatures?
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post Jun 8 2008, 11:57 PM
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I had my car for the entire Chicago winter of 2007. Temps outside got to a nice 10°F and I only had one issue with my tires. For no reason, my TPMS light came on when I started my car. I did a quick pressure check and all 4 of my tires dropped about 10 PSI (32 PSI is recommended, mine were around 23). Did a cold inflate and all is well!

Just make sure you are checking and filling your tires when they are cold. Give your tires at least 3 hours and they'll be cold. If you need to drive to a gas station to fill up your tires, try to keep it within a 1 mile driving distance.

Personally, I've never used nitrogen in my tires nor would I recommend it because... well, it doesn't make much sense and I feel that it's just a waste of money. Why pay for nitrogen when oxygen is free?!? Besides, you're supposed to be checking your tires once a month anyways so you can keep a consistant PSI in all tires.
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post Jun 9 2008, 01:06 AM
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QUOTE(freakingwilly @ Jun 8 2008, 11:57 PM)
I had my car for the entire Chicago winter of 2007.  Temps outside got to a nice 10°F and I only had one issue with my tires.  For no reason, my TPMS light came on when I started my car.  I did a quick pressure check and all 4 of my tires dropped about 10 PSI (32 PSI is recommended, mine were around 23).  Did a cold inflate and all is well!

Just make sure you are checking and filling your tires when they are cold.  Give your tires at least 3 hours and they'll be cold.  If you need to drive to a gas station to fill up your tires, try to keep it within a 1 mile driving distance.

Personally, I've never used nitrogen in my tires nor would I recommend it because... well, it doesn't make much sense and I feel that it's just a waste of money.  Why pay for nitrogen when oxygen is free?!?  Besides, you're supposed to be checking your tires once a month anyways so you can keep a consistant PSI in all tires.
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True the 1st day it got under 30 degrees here i kept having problems with my low pressure warning every morning....Oxygen is free for right now so USE IT!!! lol
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post Jun 9 2008, 09:40 AM
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Just to be a pain. When you use air to fill up your tires, you aren't putting Oxygen in. You're putting 78.08% Nitrogen, 20.95% Oxygen, + a few extras.

So already filling up at the local gas station is putting 78% Nitrogen in your tires.

The only advantage I can see is that Nitrogen is slightly more resistant to heat, so less expansion under heavy driving conditions.

Its also smaller atomically than oxygen, so theoretically, could cause more air leak problems, although the size difference is insignificant until you get to the molecular level.

why pay for nitrogen when you're already getting it free?
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post Aug 29 2008, 08:30 PM
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Sorry to revive an old thread, but I got a flat tire today and when getting it fixed I got nitrogen put in all 4 tires. It only cost $2.50 per tire and has free fill ups for life of the tire. Not expensive at all, but it is worth $10?
Well hears my take. Yes it true that air contains nitrogen, oxygen, and some other stuff, so some say why pay for nitrogen when air contains it for free. Well I think your missing the point. The nitrogen in itself doesn't add anything or help the tire, the benefit is from removing the oxygen. Putting in just nitrogen removes the oxygen from the inside of the tire. Oxygen to most materials on the planet is very destructive. We've all heard of oxidation. This occurs when oxygen attacks the free radicals on materials such as metal, paint, rubber, organic materials, and even living tissue. When oxygen attacks the free radicals it creates a burning effect which damages the material. Over time oxygen can break down the inside walls of the tire and cause it to fail. Nitrogen is not a magic tire saving substance, its simply a substitute for the damaging oxygen.
Now which would happen first, the tire being oxidized on the inside or the tread wearing out. Well 99% of the time the tread will wear out first, so again, is it worth it? Well I'm sure we all wax our cars and that wax costs like $5-10 and we do that multiple times a year spending $5-10 here or there. And why do we wax? To protect the paint from oxidation. Wax has no free radicals so oxygen cant burn it away, thus oxygen can't damage the paint because it can't attack paints/metals free radicals. So if you protect your paint from oxidation for possibly $100's a year and to protect your tires is a one time fee of $10-20 I think its at least worth trying out.
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QUOTE(kraig @ Jun 9 2008, 09:40 AM)
Just to be a pain. When you use air to fill up your tires, you aren't putting Oxygen in. You're putting 78.08% Nitrogen, 20.95% Oxygen, + a few extras.

So already filling up at the local gas station is putting 78% Nitrogen in your tires...
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Simply put... that's impossible. The nitrogen you are referring to is contained in the Earth's upmost atmosphere. Remember, Nitrogen is LESS dense than Oxygen, so it will float above the oxygen at any given time (ice is less dense than water, ice will float above water). How are you pulling nitrogen out of the air when it's already floating on top of all the oxygen we are surrounded by? Think it's possible? Try this... fill a large bucket with water and put some ice on top. Stick a long straw in the bucket and make sure it hits the bottom of the bucket. Now, I want you to suck in the ice that is floating up on the top.

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QUOTE(NY-09GTS @ Aug 29 2008, 08:30 PM)
Now which would happen first, the tire being oxidized on the inside or the tread wearing out. Well 99% of the time the tread will wear out first, so again, is it worth it? Well I'm sure we all wax our cars and that wax costs like $5-10 and we do that multiple times a year spending $5-10 here or there. And why do we wax? To protect the paint from oxidation. Wax has no free radicals so oxygen cant burn it away, thus oxygen can't damage the paint because it can't attack paints/metals free radicals. So if you protect your paint from oxidation for possibly $100's a year and to protect your tires is a one time fee of $10-20 I think its at least worth trying out.
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Any damage caused by oxidation done to the tires will be nothing compared to the wear on your tread over time. Nitrogen may be resistant to heat and keeps tire pressure well, but it's just a lazy excuse not to check your tires once a month... but that's just my opinion.
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post Sep 11 2008, 08:50 PM
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Most if not all Aircraft Use Nitrogen to fill tires. It's just last longer and holds up better in colder weather. I'm sure that you wouldn't want to take off in an aircraft with a low pressurized tire, lol, plus you need all the PSI you can get to sustain the weight of those monsters.

For car applications...... well, if you know someone that works at the airport then get them to simply wheel out the cart to your vehicle ;), lol or maybe if you drive a Surburban or weight heavy Truck, otherwise for general use, nawwwwww not a huge issue
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