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 Cruise Control Doesn't Work :(
 
freakingwilly
post Jun 7 2008, 06:31 PM
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Well... it just doesn't work. If I hit the ON button, the CRUISE light comes up on the dash, but when I hit SET, nothing happens and I just slow down.

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post Jun 7 2008, 06:54 PM
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See....today is the jinx day!

Guess we have to trade them in for some new 09's huh? :grin:

The usual suspect........fuse?.......
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post Jun 7 2008, 10:55 PM
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My side view mirrors don;t turn so lets get 09's!

The usual suspect........fuse?....... yes
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post Jun 8 2008, 09:08 AM
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it should be warrantable.

take it in and get it fixed.
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post Jun 8 2008, 01:41 PM
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But I wanna fix it myself!

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Translation: I don't want to take out my HIDs because I know they will blame it on that.

EDIT: Also forgot to mention that my work hours clash with the service departments hours. I'd have to take time off to take my car there for a repair... which I would most likely get charged for.
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post Jun 9 2008, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(freakingwilly @ Jun 7 2008, 07:31 PM)
Well... it just doesn't work.  If I hit the ON button, the CRUISE light comes up on the dash, but when I hit SET, nothing happens and I just slow down.

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Haven't tried mine yet but maybe if you hold the set button a couple of seconds longer the cruise will kick in. I thought the same of my Civic until I held the button until I can feel it going.
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post Jun 9 2008, 03:18 PM
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Are you keeping your foot on the accelerator,clutch, or break while you try to set it?
Just checking. Cause if you are it will just keep getting reset.
But I'm sure you know better than that :P
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post Jun 10 2008, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(rox @ Jun 9 2008, 03:18 PM)
Are you keeping your foot on the accelerator,clutch, or break while you try to set it?
Just checking. Cause if you are it will just keep getting reset.
But I'm sure you know better than that :P
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You are right rox... I do know better than that. :P

I will hit a good cruise speed (40-45, depending on the speed limit), release the gas, and with the cruise ON, I will hit the SET button... and no go. The car slows down as if I just did nothing.

This is major stink.
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post Jun 11 2008, 06:44 AM
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have you done anything silly like install different taillights and/or bulbs?
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post Jun 11 2008, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE(manybrews @ Jun 11 2008, 06:44 AM)
have you done anything silly like install different taillights and/or bulbs?
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Yeah... brake lights, tail lights, city lights (all LEDs), and new reverse lights (bulbs, not LEDs). And of course, HIDs.

I'm interested to see where you're going with this manybrews...
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post Jun 11 2008, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE(freakingwilly @ Jun 11 2008, 08:00 PM)
Yeah... brake lights, tail lights, city lights (all LEDs), and new reverse lights (bulbs, not LEDs).  And of course, HIDs.

I'm interested to see where you're going with this manybrews...
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{sigh}..

put all the regular bulbs back in. then try it. It should amazingly work.


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post Jun 12 2008, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE(manybrews @ Jun 11 2008, 08:25 PM)
{sigh}..

put all the regular bulbs back in.  then try it.  It should amazingly work.
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I don't doubt you for a second manybrews, but would you be so amazing as to explain why the bulbs are the root (and solution) to my problem?

EDIT: Once I get the free time tomorrow evening (I hate working nights), I will swap out all the bulbs.
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post Jun 12 2008, 04:12 AM
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How would changing the bulbs out help anything...now i can see your HID's you kinda sorta made (Rigged together) might be a problem but i have never heared of just bulbs doing anything like that....J/w
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post Jun 12 2008, 06:50 AM
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QUOTE(freakingwilly @ Jun 12 2008, 12:29 AM)
I don't doubt you for a second manybrews, but would you be so amazing as to explain why the bulbs are the root (and solution) to my problem?

EDIT: Once I get the free time tomorrow evening (I hate working nights), I will swap out all the bulbs.
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Honestly, Ive never bothered figuring out why. The same issue occurs if multiple brake lights burn out. Obviously, its somehow related to the resistance of the bulbs (and the fact that the LEDs dont have any whatsoever). The cruise ECM must be interpreting the incorrect resistance as you "stepping" on the pedal.

the HID headlights shouldnt be affecting it, however, Id like to know how you got around the DRLs and their lower voltage.

Ill examine the schematic at work today and figure it out.
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post Jun 12 2008, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(manybrews @ Jun 12 2008, 06:50 AM)
Honestly, Ive never bothered figuring out why.  The same issue occurs if multiple brake lights burn out.  Obviously, its somehow related to the resistance of the bulbs (and the fact that the LEDs dont have any whatsoever).  The cruise ECM must be interpreting the incorrect resistance as you "stepping" on the pedal.

the HID headlights shouldnt be affecting it, however, Id like to know how you got around the DRLs and their lower voltage.

Ill examine the schematic at work today and figure it out.
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Wow... that's one for the books. I never would have guessed that. Kudos manybrews.

As for the DRL bypass, I used the bypass that afeudale posted. It's option #3 and it basically chokes out the DRL signal, only allowing an always on or always off function. I would much rather reroute them to my high beams (like every other friggin car on the planet), but I was having a very difficult time figuring it out so I just bypassed it until I could find the solution.

Thanks for everything though.
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post Jun 12 2008, 02:50 PM
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hey manybrews, is this a common problem on just mitus or it across the board? Be interested to find out.
Never in a million years would have guess that would be the problem.
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post Jun 12 2008, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(fullmetalpanic @ Jun 12 2008, 02:50 PM)
hey manybrews, is this a common problem on just mitus or it across the board? Be interested to find out.
Never in a million years would have guess that would be the problem.
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I would say its probably common to many cars, as nearly all cars use solid-state lighting control these days.


Ive never really understood the fascination with putting LEDs in a car that didnt come with them anyway... seems silly to me.
Oh well... whatever.
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post Jun 12 2008, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(freakingwilly @ Jun 12 2008, 11:33 AM)
Wow... that's one for the books.  I never would have guessed that.  Kudos manybrews.

As for the DRL bypass, I used the bypass that afeudale posted.  It's option #3 and it basically chokes out the DRL signal, only allowing an always on or always off function.  I would much rather reroute them to my high beams (like every other friggin car on the planet), but I was having a very difficult time figuring it out so I just bypassed it until I could find the solution.

Thanks for everything though.
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im assuming it took care of your issue?

and here you were, not wanting to go to the dealer 'cause they were gonna probably blame it on you.... Rightly so! :P
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post Jun 12 2008, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE(manybrews @ Jun 12 2008, 04:30 PM)
im assuming it took care of your issue?

and here you were, not wanting to go to the dealer 'cause they were gonna probably blame it on you.... Rightly so! :P
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To be honest myself, I haven't done anything to see if the LEDs are the root of the problem. I've haven't been on this board for very long, but I respect everything you say, regardless of how brutal your words may be (because 100% of the time, what you say is correct :laughing: ). You've been right on everything else you put your $0.02 into... I let past experience determine future results :)

As for the fascination with LEDs, I did the brake lights because the red LEDs produce a more vibrant red color than the stock bulbs. In some cases, they can actually be brighter than halogen bulbs, not to mention generate less heat which prolongs the life of the bulb. Not to mention city lights and plate lights look great in the cool white LEDs.
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post Jun 13 2008, 12:37 AM
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Well, I did some swapping and lo and behold... it didn't work!

"Wait... what?"

Yep, nada. Swapped out all the additional LEDs that I added back when my cruise control was working and I got a big ol' squat diddly (squat diddly > diddly squat).

Now before everybody starts going "OMG MANYBREWS WAS WRONG! APOCOLYPSE HAS BEGUN!!!" This was not in vain! Why? Well, I found out why my city lights would turn on when I pressed down on my brakes. And yes, it was because of the LEDs. When I swapped out my LED brake lights with bulbs, my city lights functioned normally.

So, in a way, manybrews was still right... just not in the topic I had hoped. :P
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