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| erne |
Jun 22 2008, 06:33 AM
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Hello Guys , You can buy powerbox cr plus this piggyback that in my opinion is the best buy you can find ! I got it some time ago , and I am pretty happy. The amout of torque you gain is impressive. http://www.tdc-technologies.com/The site is not updated so u cant buy online , but if you mail Dave he is a very nice guy there to help you! Hope this will help
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| erne |
Jun 22 2008, 09:23 AM
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MM Complicated questions!! I try to answer some.! The engine is pratically the same except the capacity and the fact that you have more HP amd torque. I dont rep TDC products , I am just a happy costumer. I can suggest you also other very nice alternative brands , but the price is going to increse look at this F ex. http://www.steinbauer.cc/neu/index.php?sel...int&select_l=en . Going back to the tdc : As for the increse of power in your car I saw that the old powerbox (not digital) for your car had this power increse ,but for the plus u better ask directly tdc: Power (max): 192 hp @ 3500 rpm Torque (max): 405 NM @ 2000 rpm Is very easy to install and probably will take u 10-15 minutes. As for the warranty , of course is a problem , but as u said u can always remove every dealer inspection. My local dealer told me is no problem for them , but this is very delicate and personal. What do you think about your triton ? Are u happy?
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| bobeadle |
Jun 22 2008, 10:32 AM
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Erne,
Thanks for your patience! :)
It all seems very straightforward. All I need to find out with Dave/TDC is ....
1. How the PowerBox CR "PLUS" is different from PowerBox CR. One thing is, the PLUS is digital where I gather the UNPLUS was not.
2. If PRICES taking delivery in the EU are the SAME as taking delivery in the US.
I like the Trident, which I took delivery on a week ago very much. It was released in Brazil in November, 2007. I was about to buy a Toyota HiLux (the "fat" model released in Brazil in 2005. But when I saw the advantages this far more progressive, modern vehicle offered- no contest!
Almost no contest....
When the new "fat" HiLux came out it took some time to get used to the more American styled, macho model. Dual cabs in South America are seen as 'luxury' vehicles, rather than work vehicles. They may be thought of as "fat banker" cars, the only concession being a 30% lower price for a "work vehicle" than the equivalent SUV. Only because they have a truck bed- really!
However, by the time I was ready to buy in 2008, I had, grudgingly, accepted the design. I'd seen the new Triton, but thought the design rather effete or precious. All those curves! Afterall, they're not, you know, "functional". Like a "real (man's) truck". Besides, I was used to the look of the HiLux, until.....
I looked more closely at the Triton. I was impressed. Although still favoring "the look" of the Toyota, I could find no way to justify the American truck culture's macho prejudices. I bought it.
Now, I'm very happy with the vehicle. There's never enough power, with bikes or cars or trucks. That's to be expected. The Triton grows on you, I found.
Now I'm what you could call a "reverse-macho snob". I sometimes ever refer to it as my "**** Truck", just to stick it to macho poseur truck friends of mine. It's go SO much more to offer than the HiLux, I wonder why it isn't in more demand.
In Brazil, the answer seems to be that buyers rely on conventional wisdom that Toyota is best, that is "most reliable". Hey, it's a good vehicle. But much of the prejudice in favor of the Toyota seems based on very lengthy product cycles. This in turn creates high resale value and the inherrent committment to the procut that comes with them.
Toyota is conventional, conservative and competent. Mitsubishi is creative, progressive and exciting.
That's enough for me!
Best wishes, Bob
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| bobeadle |
Jun 30 2008, 05:55 AM
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On your recommendation and Dave's guarantees it has worked well with the 3.2L, I will soon order TDC's PowerBox Plus.
Steinbauer, expensive and just a bit arrogant, although conservative: "20% increase in power") DP 31, expensive and online rep finds it convenient to work with Aussie locals for the good service, trading tradition- which I imagine is little use to us in the Gulf or here in Brazil.
Have you measured the HP (PS, KW) and torque increase using PowerBox on your vehicle?
Only question: TDC does not indicate absolute power increases by vehicle (varies by "application"). Only rough percentages for the PowerBox 25-50% and plus (another 20-30% or so). But even the minimum percentages, if you can believe them, are above Steinbauer and DP 31.
Guess I will have to wait and see.
Thanks again for your help.
:clap: :)
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| bobeadle |
Jun 30 2008, 11:17 AM
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Oops, lost the reply...
Good 'job', Dave? Maybe I got 50% of that and far less than I can use. What cn you expect from a newbie? You seems to know what you're talking about, so... if you (and Dave) don't mind: What plug and play piggyback would YOU use on a 3.2 L? (I'd also ask "why", but I'm afraid to.) As your dad's Brazilian, I guess you are, too. Fala Portugúes? Liked Chiang Mai very much when I was there. Weather something like Bahia's, except for the Monsoon.
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| KiT TeUnG 2549 |
Jun 30 2008, 11:40 AM
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Well my dad is Bororo , my older brothers are born in Sao Paulo , and meeha nd my twin are born here in Chiang Mai , my mum is Lanna Thai ( of Chiang Mai) , Portugese do Brasil , yu asked. fala , not as well as my brotehrs , i am not as well spoken as they are.
The older ECU systems had a Programmed Read Only Module (PROM) which had a stored basic settings for the ECU to go by. Which is why yu can chip an older model ECU equipped Vehicle , like 1995 down , later than 1995.5 the computer was made more complex with , amongst more processing power the whole unit works as one and many modules are within it that store and retreive data. Which is why it cannot be chipped. But like i have done to my own ECU , there are companies that sell , like Ralliart , Motronix , J-East sell kits to which yu can modfiy yur ECU tuning . But it requires a small bit of knowledge. Most kits require , the use of an Windows XP computer with certain specifications. It has a program that yu can look at the mapping , yu can manually put in adjustments if yu are a profesional or there are pre done upgraded setting for more power and efficiency already on teh syste that yu can choose frum and then it will "flash" yur ECU and reprogram the designated performance ecu tunings yu desire. The kits depending are usually model specific and are not very expensive at all anymore. They usually work on a range of the same model within 2 years up and down of teh model , GDI, DiD etc.
A piggyback i kno of is also by these same companies , but others are out there , a Piggy-back unit is a unit that plugs inline with the ECU itself , it does away with having to take time and flash and reprogram the unit. And it plugs right in and yur ready to go , and if yu choose yu can take it out . Also there are complete stand alone units that Ralliart / Rallitronix / Motronix makes that are complete ECU systems that replace yur old one , altho i find them expensive sumtimes and either too much of wut yu desire or not enough.
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| KiT TeUnG 2549 |
Jun 30 2008, 11:50 AM
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Well my dad is Bororo , my older brothers are born in Sao Paulo , and meeha nd my twin are born here in Chiang Mai , my mum is Lanna Thai ( of Chiang Mai) , Portugese do Brasil , yu asked. fala , not as well as my brotehrs , i am not as well spoken as they are.
The older ECU systems had a Programmed Read Only Module (PROM) which had a stored basic settings for the ECU to go by. Which is why yu can chip an older model ECU equipped Vehicle , like 1995 down , later than 1995.5 the computer was made more complex with , amongst more processing power the whole unit works as one and many modules are within it that store and retreive data. Which is why it cannot be chipped. But like i have done to my own ECU , there are companies that sell , like Ralliart , Motronix , J-East sell kits to which yu can modfiy yur ECU tuning . But it requires a small bit of knowledge. Most kits require , the use of an Windows XP computer with certain specifications. It has a program that yu can look at the mapping , yu can manually put in adjustments if yu are a profesional or there are pre done upgraded setting for more power and efficiency already on teh syste that yu can choose frum and then it will "flash" yur ECU and reprogram the designated performance ecu tunings yu desire. The kits depending are usually model specific and are not very expensive at all anymore. They usually work on a range of the same model within 2 years up and down of teh model , GDI, DiD etc.
A piggyback i kno of is also by these same companies , but others are out there , a Piggy-back unit is a unit that plugs inline with the ECU itself , it does away with having to take time and flash and reprogram the unit. And it plugs right in and yur ready to go , and if yu choose yu can take it out . Also there are complete stand alone units that Ralliart / Rallitronix / Motronix makes that are complete ECU systems that replace yur old one , altho i find them expensive sumtimes and either too much of wut yu desire or not enough.
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| KiT TeUnG 2549 |
Jun 30 2008, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(bobeadle @ Jun 30 2008, 11:17 AM) Oops, lost the reply... Good 'job', Dave? Maybe I got 50% of that and far less than I can use. What cn you expect from a newbie? You seems to know what you're talking about, so... if you (and Dave) don't mind: What plug and play piggyback would YOU use on a 3.2 L? (I'd also ask "why", but I'm afraid to.) As your dad's Brazilian, I guess you are, too. Fala Portugúes? Liked Chiang Mai very much when I was there. Weather something like Bahia's, except for the Monsoon. yeah the weathers pretty similar if not almost the same , terraine also , yeah i like it up here , i hear the 3.2 is pretty tough with sumthin frum Ralliart or Rallitronic / Rallitronix , especially if yur like meeh and love to mud it or general off terraine driving. I stay not far off of the River Ping , northern area
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