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Jun 22 2008, 05:05 AM
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Bought an RVR about three months ago with rough running and idle issues, did the ecu fix (thanks to this forum) and traced the rough running to cylinder three and a slightly weak running cylinder four, checked spark, plugs, electrical feed to injectors, evenutally removed commom rail and injectors, full of a dark brown sludge. Started running rough yesterday, exactly the same sludge in the injectors.
Run injector cleaner through last time, before I start the long trek from injectors back to tank, anyone else had this problem or know how to sort it?.
Cheers
Dave
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Jun 24 2008, 04:59 PM
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Fuel filter on the list for this week's jobs to see how it goes, apart from this the car has been fine.
Cant find the post for the idle fix, however the jist of it was that Rubycon Electrolytic capacitors in the ecu leak, the electrolyte damages the ecu and reduces the capacitors efficiency. There are three of them at different ratings (can't remember what) however unsoldering them and replacing them cost me about 58p for parts, cured it instantly. The funny thing is that it doesn't show up on a diagnostic check as it is an internal part of the ecu not a sensor pulse.
Wouldn't recommend doing it if you are not confident or dont have a spare ecu!!
Dave
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Jun 25 2008, 02:51 AM
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Jim Idle issue fixed with the ecu, cleaned the ecu first with carb cleaner then a toothbrush and bicarb removed most of the electrolyte, soldering straightforward from then on in. Removing and cleaning the injectors fixed the poor power/acceleration issue, however if you haven't already removed the injectors (2 bolts) watch out for the injector seals they perish. I packed them with PTFE tape and refitted them. Dave found the thread- http://www.mitsubishi-forums.com/t24483-93...dle-trouble.htm
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Jul 4 2008, 01:58 AM
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Replaced the inline fuel filter, it had a fair amount of very fine sediment in it, hopefully should cure the problem. Will keep the post upto date if this is not the case!
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Jul 7 2008, 09:50 AM
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Early 90’s Mitsubishi ECUs are notorious for having leaking capacitors. If you do not catch them early enough, your ECU will be RUINED by leaking acid! And poor idle can be one of the symptoms.
Do you guys have an EGR system on your RVRs, or is it only a US market thing? EGR system dumps certain percentage of exhaust gasses back into the intake manifold for the sake of cleaner emissions. Well, it works OK at first, but with time, exhaust gasses coat your throttle body, intake manifold, injectors and intake valves with carbon deposits. And eventually (after 60-80k miles), when carbon deposits build-up, problems arise.
So if you do have an EGR system and are experiencing idle problems, I would look into cleaning your throttle body and intake system.
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Jul 7 2008, 09:54 AM
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RVR's in the UK are all Jap import's some come with EGR, but most of the time when they start failing we chuck blanking kits on and dont worry about the gas recirculation again!
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