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 What Hid Is Best, HID COLOR IS BEST
 
dogdog130
post Jun 24 2008, 07:39 PM
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WHAT HID IM THINKING 5000 BUT WHAT IS THE BRIGHTEST YOU CAN GET I WANT BRIGHT I LIVE IN THE COUNTRY AND WANT SOMETHING THAT LIGHTS UP EVERYTHING

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post Jun 24 2008, 11:37 PM
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Caps lock, is it really necessary? and 5k would do it but a bluer light illuminates objects better. Id say go for like 8k or something bluer.
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post Jun 25 2008, 01:59 AM
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QUOTE(dogdog130 @ Jun 24 2008, 05:39 PM)
WHAT HID IM THINKING 5000 BUT WHAT IS THE BRIGHTEST YOU CAN GET I WANT BRIGHT I LIVE IN THE COUNTRY AND WANT SOMETHING THAT LIGHTS UP EVERYTHING
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i believe the brightest that comes in a kit is 12,000K they are practically purple. here is a link to a pretty inexpensive kit.

http://www.shopxenon.com/images/12000-l1.gif

i hope that helps you.
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post Jun 25 2008, 11:56 AM
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Link takes me to just a picture of 12000k button that you can't click.
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post Jun 25 2008, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE(lancerpower4b11 @ Jun 25 2008, 06:56 PM)
Link takes me to just a picture of 12000k button that you can't click.
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Use your imagination and tack back a little on the provided link to get soemthing like:
http://www.shopxenon.com/
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post Jun 25 2008, 03:37 PM
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Newsflash**** the higher the K's, the lower the light output.
So 12,000K's although bright looking would have the lowest output.

4300-5000K's (6000K's max) is the brightest and whitest light. they will illuminate the country roads just perfect. anything above that will deminish in output strength.(luminums).

Go to any HID website or (sylvania.com) for a detailed explaination
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post Jun 25 2008, 05:06 PM
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4300K's are the brightest available kit on the market today. Anything higher, and you are getting less visible lumens. Don't follow the way of the ignorant ricer groups. Stick to 4300K/5000K if you actually want your HID's to be of any use, and not annoy other people with flashy colors.
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post Jun 25 2008, 05:55 PM
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um, just so you know, i happen to have a friend who is a chemical engineer. he has explained to me how the 12,000K bulbs are made and explained to me why they are brighter because they are hotter.

the brightest stars in the night sky are not bright like that because they are closer, all though that does help a bit. the brightest stars are bright, because of their temperature. the hottest gases on a star burn bright white. the cooler gases burn purple and blue. the stars that are fading out are the red burning stars. tell me that a laser cutter isn't the most intense light to have to look at. its so bright that most welders use both tinted goggles and a tinted face shield.

12,000K HID lights by scientific fact, are the brightest lights you can get on the market. just because it is so bright it reflects off of the roads and you don't see it on the roads as much does not take away from the fact that 12,000K HID's can be seen further from its source than any 5,000K.

granted that the 5,000K HID lights will give you better close proximity visualization, but they are not the brightest. please refrain from saying i am a "ricer" as that term offends me.
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post Jun 25 2008, 07:37 PM
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I think there is general confusion over the topic context.

The originator of this post is looking for HIDs which will help brighten up country roads for him. He obviously means in the context of output.

No doubt 12,000k's are brighter close range, but that won't do any good for the topic originator, well minus attracting more mosquitoes, lol.

As mentioned before in ref to this topic; a 4300K application will illuminate the general area best. (I recommended up to 6000k's.)

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post Jun 26 2008, 11:08 AM
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FREAKINGWILLY HAS FREAKING ARRIVED! I like to think of myself as a lighting guru of sorts... now to pass on some knowledge! SUPER ATTACK MODE WILLY... GO!

#1) dogdog130, 3000K HID provide the BEST POSSIBLE illumination. Unfortunately, the yellow color can fatigue you while driving at night. 4300K is the best route to go because they provide great road illumination PLUS they mimic real sunlight, so you feel more "awake" while driving at night. Anything higher and you lose more road illumination. 6000K is the highest you should go without sacrificing a lot of illumination.

#2) There seems to be some confusion about the temperature on HID kits. The temperature for HID kits is not a physical heat based temperature, it is a visible color temperature. If these bulbs really were rated at 12,000°K, they would utterly obliterate anything they got close to (that's 21,140°F and 11,726°C) The LOWER the color temperature, the more intense the light is to look at. Bullet_bike_syke, the reason why laser cutters are the most intense things to look at is because they are RED in color temperature (2000K).

#3) Just like what everybody else said, the higher the color temperature you go, the less visible light you have. Ever wonder why so many street lamps use those ugly orange bulbs? Because the lower the color temperature, the MORE visible light you have! Ever wonder why 12,000K HIDs are illegal for road use in the US? Because they have horrible road illumination!

Lastly... 90% of all statistics and "scientific facts" are made up on the spot. They are only right 50% of the time.
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post Jun 27 2008, 01:06 AM
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QUOTE(bullet_bike_syke69 @ Jun 25 2008, 03:55 PM)
um, just so you know, i happen to have a friend who is a chemical engineer. he has explained to me how the 12,000K bulbs are made and explained to me why they are brighter because they are hotter.

the brightest stars in the night sky are not bright like that because they are closer, all though that does help a bit. the brightest stars are bright, because of their temperature. the hottest gases on a star burn bright white. the cooler gases burn purple and blue. the stars that are fading out are the red burning stars. tell me that a laser cutter isn't the most intense light to have to look at. its so bright that most welders use both tinted goggles and a tinted face shield.

12,000K HID lights by scientific fact, are the brightest lights you can get on the market. just because it is so bright it reflects off of the roads and you don't see it on the roads as much does not take away from the fact that 12,000K HID's can be seen further from its source than any 5,000K.

granted that the 5,000K HID lights will give you better close proximity visualization, but they are not the brightest. please refrain from saying i am a "ricer" as that term offends me.
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No offense or anything to you bro, I think your friend needs to go back to school and earn his degree once again.

The Kelvin rating of these bulbs has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with their temperature! It indicates the rating on the color spectrum. Nice story about the stars and all, but yeah it has absolutely nothing to do with this.

There is a reason why manufacturers like BMW/VW/Mercedes all use 4100/4300K bulbs in their factory OEM HID housings. Its because they emit the highest amount of visible lumens.
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