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pwee05
post Jul 2 2008, 09:02 AM
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well you guys can say all you want but i still think that the engines in these are pieces of SHI T!!!!!!!! [right][snapback]178594[/snapback][/right]


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doesn't look much like a piece of **** to me.

just in case you go into the 420a vs 4g63 argument
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these are my favorite, even though I grew up a 427 guy
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there are many more
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post Jul 2 2008, 09:03 AM
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if you do decide to tear your engine out and junk it, send it my way I need one to build
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post Jul 2 2008, 09:27 AM
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well you guys are lucky.. i dont have enough money to buy the small block, and do everything to my 1g. because im paying all that money to parts for my 2g. and i got the 1g for free after i bought my 2g. I'm sorry im not going to turn down a free vehicle.
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post Jul 2 2008, 09:47 AM
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^ he!! no I wouldn't either :banana:

what kind of problems are you having with your 2g that you lost your faith?
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post Jul 2 2008, 11:12 AM
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lets see where to start.. end clutch went out then the drum on it cracked.. then the water pump quit and locked up the whole engine.. put a new engine in then the coil went bad.. then the ecu. then the whole tranny blew up literly.. 6 inch hole in the bellhousing. oh have i mentioned that i had thins car for less than a year. yeah.. good ole DSM right??
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post Jul 2 2008, 11:16 AM
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oh and i put over 3 o2 sensors in it and the check engine light still comes on.
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post Jul 2 2008, 11:16 AM
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your car isn't a DSM, it's actually a chrysler

sounds like someone spanked the hell outta that thing before you got it though. I haven't heard of a 420a auto trans failing as catastrophically as that one did without it being beaten.

the water pump thing is a little more common and usually caused by someone not replacing it when they are supposed to (60k tune up)

ECU is also common

it should be good to go now though
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post Jul 2 2008, 11:17 AM
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oh and i put over 3 o2 sensors in it and the check engine light still comes on.
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then it's probably not the O2 sensor causing the problem :blush-anim-cl:
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post Jul 2 2008, 11:17 AM
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If that was all on the same car, sounds to me like the ***** before you didn't take care of it. But that is what always happens when you buy a used car, you take over thier problems.

As far as the transmission, there is no reason stuff is blowing through the bellhousing or anywhere. Sounds like either the old owner tried fixing it himself and didn't know what he was doing; or you were possibly pushing it too hard, although I have never heard of anything going through the transmission or the engine except pistons and rods on dragsters.
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post Jul 2 2008, 11:21 AM
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yeah.. well this is why i want to tear everything out and put in a small block. rather than fixing everything.
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ANd you don't have the money to do that so stop bitching and whining because you will not be dropping a "small block" in this car and you know it. Your some back yard mechanic who can turn a wrench. Stop being a **** **** about this fix your American piece of **** and sell it.

If you have your heart set on this swap stop complaining about how bad this MOPAR motor is.

Have you thought about this project, I mean seriously.


You will need to get the engine, transmission, a custom driveshaft, some rear that will fit. Move the gas tank. Figure a way to weld all this onto a car not meant to have any of it in it.

Not to mention if you can't figure out the 420A how the **** are you going to figure out how to make the whole thing work in the first place.

You my friend are going to have a worse failure on your hands then this entire situation pictured below.

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post Jul 2 2008, 12:06 PM
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I want a **** Ferrari 599 GTB you don't see me complaining, no you see me working and saving as much as I can so that one day I can afford one.

You better put your **** flame suit on because you are a complete ****.
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post Jul 2 2008, 12:16 PM
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!diot I can't even focus on the **** payroll for my employees for last week I keep thinking about how dumb of an idea this for you to be doing.

Seriously I liked the idea until you wouldn't stop complaining about the Chrysler engine. Get serious.

**** this is how people have Aneurysms, they hear some thing so insane that they just can't get it out of their head and it just sits in there and expands and expands and then BAM!!! their **** head explodes!

Here try this, "If it wasn't for my horse I wouldn't have spent that year in college" AHH take that foucker!
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post Jul 2 2008, 12:19 PM
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"If it wasn't for my horse I wouldn't have spent that year in college"  AHH take that foucker!
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ya know i wouldnt be bitching all the time about the Chrysler engine if it would run AT LEAST 50% of the TIME!!!!

and before you start talking **** about me you better learn about me first!!! i have my own shop you ****!!! i have done engine changes for a while now! But why dont you just **** off. I actually like this forum untill you guys were complete asses about me trying to change an engine.
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If you have your own shop and cant fix this engine you must run a mickey mouse operation.
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