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> Engine Swap, 4g63 to 4g63t
shoedaddy
post Jul 8 2008, 08:01 AM
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just bought a turbo motor out of a 90 want to put it in my 93 gs what computer do i need i got the motor and computer out of the 90 is there anything i need to do to my 93 for this to work
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post Jul 8 2008, 08:47 AM
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your 93 will be a 7 bolt. is it 5-speed or auto?
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post Jul 8 2008, 09:04 AM
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FIVE SPEED
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post Jul 8 2008, 09:10 AM
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I AM HAVING THE MOTOR COMPLETLY REBUILT WHAT CAN I HAVE DONE IN THERE TO GET AS MUCH POWER OUT OF IT AS POSSIBLE
(CAMS, BETTER TURBO THE TURBO IN IT IS TDO5H IS A FRONT MOUNT INTERCOOLER BETTER THAN THE STOCK ONE,PORTED AND POLISHED ) I WANT TO SEND THIS TO THE MACHINE SHOP AS SOON AS POSSIBLE THEY ARE GOING TO INSTALL IT FOR ME ALSO, IS IT BETTER TO RUN A STANDALONE FULE MANAGMENT SYSTEM.
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post Jul 8 2008, 09:14 AM
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I guess the big question is. how much money do you want to spend and what do you plan on doing with the car (drag race, street, road course?)?

I can show you parts to get 1000+hp out of the engine but it won't do you any good if you are a road course guy and don't upgrade the trans :thumbsup:
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post Jul 8 2008, 11:57 AM
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i want a daily driver that will run with the best of them, I WAS THINKING OF ABOUT 350 TO 4000 HP
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i want a daily driver that will run with the best of them, I WAS THINKING OF ABOUT 350 TO 4000 HP
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haha, I think that was a typo.

350 is a good goal with FWD cars. 400 is hard to get traction.

all you need is a bigger turbo like an evoIII 16g, a nice fmic or large smic, and good fuel mods. the stock 6-bolt block will handle 350 all day :thumbsup:
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DO I NEED TO BUILD UP THE BLOCK OR JUST DO A REBUILD, FRONT MOUNT INTERCOOLER, WHAT IS FMIC,ANDSMIC WHAT IS THE BEST SITE FOR THESE PARTS I KNOW EBAY IS IFFY
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post Jul 8 2008, 12:18 PM
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if the compression of the engine you just bought is fine all you have to do is drop it in your 93. I would replace the timing belt, pulleys, and tensioner before you do that thouhg. Any chance you get to replace the timing components on these things is a good idea.

but otherwise,, it should be ok as it is.

If you are worried the engine may have been beaten or is higher in mileage a stock rebuild, balance shaft eliminator kit, new oil pump, new timing components, and a metal head gasket are all you need
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post Jul 8 2008, 12:23 PM
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I WAS GONING TO DO A COMPLETE REBUILD ON IT FOR DEPENDABLY BUT THE EXHAUST MANIFOLD HAS A COUPLE OF CRACKS IN IT WHERE SHOULD I LOOK FOR ONE I JUST PAID 150 FOR THE COMPLETE MOTOR SO I FIGURED A REBUILD WOULD BE BETTER SEEING HOW THE MANIFOLD IS CRAKED SOMEBODY MUST HAVE RAN IT HARD
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ebay will have some good ones. or check the parts links in the pinned FAQ thread. you can probably find a good shop close to you.

did it come with a turbo or just the bare manifold?

considering it's age the manifold may or may not be cracked because someone was pounding on it. also, considering it's age, I would rebuild it just because i'm an engine builder and any chance I have an engine out I rip it apart. it's a disease :P
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post Jul 8 2008, 12:37 PM
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first off stop typing in caps. second, you will need to find a new manifold for the 4g63t
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post Jul 8 2008, 12:41 PM
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it came with everything but the ac compresser
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post Jul 8 2008, 01:01 PM
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that's not a bad deal at all.

I would rebuild the turbo as well as the engine then. unless it is aftermarket and doesn't have that many miles
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it also has the flywheel?
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yes the flywheel is there, what are some things i need to buy to build the motor up to get the 350 im looking for how hard is the rebuild for a first timer i wouldn't mind doing it myself
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post Jul 8 2008, 02:17 PM