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post Jul 19 2008, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE(EVOKID @ Jul 19 2008, 02:07 PM)
You can order them online but there like $2000 for both so i think i will pass
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Yup... it sucks because the projectors for our cars look freaking awesome. Nice wide shroud (the glass sphere) and the projector housing design is beautiful.

Makes me want to retrofit some Honduh S2000 projectors in there!
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post Jul 19 2008, 07:28 PM
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Can i get HIDs now and put them in a projector housing later when cheaper projectors come out?
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post Jul 20 2008, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE(EVOKID @ Jul 19 2008, 07:28 PM)
Can i get HIDs now and put them in a projector housing later when cheaper projectors come out?
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Of course... that's what we are all doing right now. Nobody has aftermarket HIDs with projectors. Anybody that has projectors for their Lancers also have the OEM HIDs as well.
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post Jul 20 2008, 05:25 PM
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i cant wait to get projectors and the ralliart tailights :grin:
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post Jul 22 2008, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(freakingwilly @ Jul 18 2008, 01:54 PM)
Most people who install aftermarket HIDs do not have a headlamp housing with projectors, instead they have the standard reflectors.  While the reflectors are good at projecting light forward for a halogen bulb, they are not so great for HIDs.  Because HIDs are so bright, having them in a reflector housing will produce a powerful glare to oncoming traffic and it diverts attention from the road ahead.  Ever see a car drive by you with really bright headlights or their high beams on?  You can help but stare right into the light... just like a deer, you get caught in the light. 

Projectors eliminate this glare, but the light output remains the same (if not improved).  This is why aftermarket HIDs are "illegal" if they are not installed by the factory because all factory HIDs come with a projector housing.

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Not only that but there's actually more. Even if you install factory systems, say from an Acura TSX, into a car that doesnt have HID's normally its still illegal. Even though its an OEM system, its in a non-HID car.

Btw, for those that dont know what I'm talking about, HID retrofitting is very popular. Thats taking projector systems from other cars, Acura TSX being a popular one, and modifying your existing headlights to be full OEM projectors, or just works of art.

As mentioned, without projectors, your HIDs cause alot of glare. There is more to this than they are just brighter. Yes thats a part of the reason but its also distribution of light. Halogen light is distributed evenly across the reflector housing. The housing is angled a certain way to aim the beam away from drivers eyes. HIDs create a much more powerful light that causes "hot spots" because of the way the light unevenly distributes across the reflectors. Projectors work differently, they shoot the beam of light past a cutoff (cuts the top off of a light beam to keep from shooting too high), through a lens that disperses and aims the beam, then out of the housing.
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post Jul 22 2008, 11:34 PM
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I also forgot to mention that separate HID bulbs for High beams isnt really a good idea. If you want HID for high beam lights then you need a bi-xenon system. Its basically one HID system with 2 settings (high beam and low beam), same bulb for both settings.

You only use your high beams for a moment or 2 to see a bit further up the road or a wider area around you. Unlike halogen bulbs which turn on ALMOST instantly (LEDs turn on instantly), the HID lights take a while to heat up. This means that if you want to throw on your High beams for 2 seconds to get a better view of the road at night, you're not going to get full output from the lights. You're only getting about 60% of the full output you would get with a fully warmed up light. In this case you're better of with the halogen lamps.

Also, turning your system on and off too much can cause a big strain on your wiring and lights.
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post Jul 22 2008, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE(shadowdom29 @ Jul 22 2008, 10:21 PM)
Not only that but there's actually more. Even if you install factory systems, say from an Acura TSX, into a car that doesnt have HID's normally its still illegal. Even though its an OEM system, its in a non-HID car.

Btw, for those that dont know what I'm talking about, HID retrofitting is very popular. Thats taking projector systems from other cars, Acura TSX being a popular one, and modifying your existing headlights to be full OEM projectors, or just works of art.

As mentioned, without projectors, your HIDs cause alot of glare. There is more to this than they are just brighter. Yes thats a part of the reason but its also distribution of light. Halogen light is distributed evenly across the reflector housing. The housing is angled a certain way to aim the beam away from drivers eyes. HIDs create a much more powerful light that causes "hot spots" because of the way the light unevenly distributes across the reflectors. Projectors work differently, they shoot the beam of light past a cutoff (cuts the top off of a light beam to keep from shooting too high), through a lens that disperses and aims the beam, then out of the housing.
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So you're telling me that I may LOSE road illumination by switching from halogen reflectors to HID projectors?!?

But I love being able to read street signs from a mile away... it also helps me see cops way down the corner :grin:
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post Jul 23 2008, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE(freakingwilly @ Jul 22 2008, 10:38 PM)
So you're telling me that I may LOSE road illumination by switching from halogen reflectors to HID projectors?!?

But I love being able to read street signs from a mile away... it also helps me see cops way down the corner  :grin:
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Haha ya you lose out on output if you go above 6000k
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post Jul 23 2008, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(shadowdom29 @ Jul 23 2008, 06:43 PM)
Haha ya you lose out on output if you go above 6000k
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That's why I went with 5000K low beams and fogs. ;)
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post Jul 23 2008, 08:04 PM
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wise choice my friend. You get a little hint of blue with 5000k anyway
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post Jul 25 2008, 12:53 AM
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QUOTE(shadowdom29 @ Jul 23 2008, 08:04 PM)
wise choice my friend. You get a little hint of blue with 5000k anyway
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I didn't... I get 100% pure white on my 5000K HIDs. My buddy bought the exact same kit as me with 6000K and he got the slint of blue in his.
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hey willy

How does the it look, the 5000k compared to the 6000k

Like does the slight blue look better or worse for driving than the pure white.
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Technically the 6000k (slight blue) have slightly less light output than 5000k (pure white). But I dont think its a very noticeable difference between the 2. 5000k to 6000k are a good choice. 8000k+ is just bad
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i have 8000k and there pretty white its not blue at all unless your looking for it i love them they are super bright and mostly white and i can see for miles
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QUOTE(shadowdom29 @ Jul 22 2008, 11:34 PM)
I also forgot to mention that separate HID bulbs for High beams isnt really a good idea. If you want HID for high beam lights then you need a bi-xenon system. Its basically one HID system with 2 settings (high beam and low beam), same bulb for both settings.

You only use your high beams for a moment or 2 to see a bit further up the road or a wider area around you. Unlike halogen bulbs which turn on ALMOST instantly (LEDs turn on instantly), the HID lights take a while to heat up. This means that if you want to throw on your High beams for 2 seconds to get a better view of the road at night, you're not going to get full output from the lights. You're only getting about 60% of the full output you would get with a fully warmed up light. In this case you're better of with the halogen lamps.

Also, turning your system on and off too much can cause a big strain on your wiring and lights.
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True, but our cars don't support bi-xenon kits. Those would be the 9004 bulb applications. HID kits are only useful for low beams and fog lights. You're still better off sticking to halogen bulbs for high beams. LEDs are ok, but it's very difficult for them to produce the same amount of light as a halogen bulb.
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QUOTE(EVOKID @ Jul 26 2008, 11:29 PM)
i have 8000k and there pretty white its not blue at all unless your looking for it i love them they are super bright and mostly white and i can see for miles
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This is a really stupid thing to do and I really don't suggest doing it, but it's the only way you can really determine the color of your HIDs... because 8000K should be a distinct blue color.

During the night time, turn on your HIDs and let them warm up completely. Then stand at least 10 feet away from the front of your car and look directly into your headlights while squinting your eyes. Squinting your eyes will help filter some of the light so you don't hurt your vision, but you can still get a clear view of the color from your HIDs.

Where did you get your HID kit from EVOKID?
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8k is definitely in the blue range. Either evo_kid got the wrong part delivered or misread the label?

Reference:
http://www.delonixradar.com.au/images/HID_poster.jpg
http://www.neon-lighting.com/articles/colortemp.jpg
http://www.poweredbygt.com/HID_files/colortemp.jpg
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