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golanalog
post Jul 22 2008, 10:19 AM
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Hi there,

I'm coming up on 60k and calling around for some estimates on a timing belt replacement for my 04 Outlander LS AWD.

Should I automatically replace the water pump as well, even if there's nothing apparently wrong with it once they get the belts off? Has anyone had it go bad on them?

Is there any reason to avoid a non-Mitsu shop for this job if I have them do the water pump?

Thanks for your advice.
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post Jul 22 2008, 05:28 PM
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I presume you are at 60000 miles and not Kms. I have 163000Kms on my Outlander and I had my belt changed at 105000Kms. The water pump was not changed at this point because the mechanic said he had never seen one go bad before the 200000km mark. But what you should make sure they have in stock before they start the job is an idler pulley assembly which you should change at the same time as the timing belt. They showed me mine and beleive me it was wore out. A little water pump leak can waite until your next belt change but if the idler goes your up the creek and so is your timing belt and maybe a few valves.
On your second timing belt change then you replace the water pump and idler again.
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post Jul 23 2008, 01:44 PM
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Thanks, Outy. I'm a U.S. American, so yeah, it's miles.

I'll hold off on the water pump for now then. Appreciate the tip on the idler pulley. I'll ask about it before I schedule an appointment.
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post Jul 23 2008, 04:16 PM
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Hold on now if the mechanic tells you the pump is leaking change it......!!!!!!!! don't take my word that it will be good.
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post Jul 26 2008, 02:18 PM
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Just curious - how many of us changed the T-belt at 60K per Mitsu's schedule? I got both the T-belt and water pump done at 80K because 60K was just way too soon in my cheap opinion. I had the work done at an independent shop, but they used Mitsu parts. The dealership hours just aren't convienent for me. I certainly applaud anyone who has/will do it at 60K though. BTW, my pulleys were fine and didn't need to be changed, but I've got the non MIVEC model. Mitsu made a host of technical changes on the 04 MIVEC powered Outlander. I've got a list of the differences between the 2.4L and MIVEC 2.4L; if anyone is interested, let me know and I'll post them or email them directly to you.
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post Jul 26 2008, 09:09 PM
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I had the timing belt changed before 100000kms just so powertrain warranty would be continued. I agree that this timing belt agenda is premature because I inspected the belts and they showed no obvious signs to be changed at this time. But the idler was a different story the bearing was definitely showing signs of fatigue. It was loose and greaseless. So was the serpentine idler that had started to scream every cold morning. Mine is the MIVEC and as 2 belts in the timing mechanism one for timing and one for the balance shaft.
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post Jul 26 2008, 09:31 PM
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So I went ahead and got an estimate at an independent shop, and I have a couple follow up questions, one of which Outy may have already answered:

1. The estimate includes a balance shaft belt in addition to the timing belt. But based on Outy's last post, that sounds right since I have an 04 with the 2.4 MIVEC.

2. The part cost for the timing belt (MD336149) is quoted at $82.78, which seems high to me. Does that include additional components? Or is that just a really "high end" belt?

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post Jul 27 2008, 07:21 AM
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That seems about right. Wait until you price the serpentine belt.
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post Jul 27 2008, 04:28 PM
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I normally do NOT recommend the water pump on any mitsu as they usually last forever.
HOWEVER... the 2.4 with the single serpentine belt has been eating water pumps for a few years, so I would say do it.
And dont wait TOO long. 60k may be a bit conservative, but the cost of going to long is a lot more than 5-600 bucks when the engine shatters.
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post Jul 27 2008, 11:47 PM
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To be honest I didn't know the timing belt needed to be changed until the car hit 75000 miles. I heard it was something that had to be done but I thought it was on older foriegn cars not the new ones. I was wrong.... I chaged mine at 83000, at a local mechanic.
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post Jul 28 2008, 07:57 AM
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The Outlander is our family hauler, so I'm definitely playing it on the safe side. This thing has been rock-solid so far though and I hope to keep it that way.
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post Jul 30 2008, 04:56 PM
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the 4 cylinder belts in the outlander usually last about 80-90 k miles. so dont wait.
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My Outy have 6 years old but only 30.000 kms. Mitsubishi dealers says to change timing belt at 100.000km or 5 years(1rt to be reached).
Do you think that i have to change it quickly??
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I just did my timing belt (113,000 km) both belts looked fine, but the tensioner and pulleys needed changing, they were showing obvious signs of fatigue, serpentine belt got changed too because it was badly cracked. The water pump was inspected and looked good, so they left it.

Total cost taxes in = $900 (dealership)
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post May 20 2011, 05:06 PM
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Last time I purchased this kit:433$

(http://cgi.ebay.ca/Timing-Belt-Kit-Mitsubishi-Outlander-2-4-2004-2005-2006-/380333930113?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item588dab3681)

One of the bearings was wrong but they have since rectified this problem so I'm told. I'm due for a new kit and will get the same one.
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QUOTE (manybrews @ Jul 30 2008, 05:56 PM) *
the 4 cylinder belts in the outlander usually last about 80-90 k miles. so dont wait.
I have a 2003 Outlander, 107,000 miles. I just replaced the timing belt. The original belt had a few nicks on the one side, but overall the belt showed no cracks or fraying at all. It probably would have lasted 5000 more mile without coming apart.
[/indent] It wasn't a big job, but not for the first time mechanic. Got to give it to the Jap's, they do some things to make working on these vehicles a lot easier. Like rubber plugged access holes in the inner fender that give you access to the water pump pulley screws, just like the American cars,,,LOL. It took about 4 hours to do the job, but I did allot of reading and had everything I needed to do the job. The toughest part was removing the timing belt sprocket from the crank, u need an impact to get this bolt out.(if replacing the balancer belt).
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That $1000.00 sure feels good in my pocket !!!!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif)
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