I know this topic already came up but I haven't heard much about this for a while.

Some people, including myself, have had the issue (on manual transmissions Lancers) where 2nd gear doesn't pop in properly with the clutch pressed in.

To me it usually happens in high RPMs or when trying to shift from 1st to 2nd quickly.
I'm wondering if anyone has dealt with this yet, or had is serviced?
When I went in for service they test drove the car, I test drove the car with the service guy driving, then I drove the car after him... guess what? OF COURSE it would NOT happen at the dealership!
But it is a reoccurring problem on my 2008 GTS - I had 4 other people recreate that issue on my car.

I'm wondering if this is also happening on the 2009 Lancers?

It happens with alot of manual cars, happened to mine and guess what grinded my 2nd gear a good bit becuase it wouldn't go into gear and clutch was in. I dont get this alot tho just when im tring to floor it sometimes and the car can't keep up.

Happened to my brother who drives an 04 honda civic si hatchback thats manual and he went into second in his car and same thing happened to him.

How would this problem affect putting in a short throw shifter?
Could that possibly create more issues or make the shifting worse?

I think it would make shifting easier. Im not sure exactly, if you contact WORKS or TWM Performace about their short shifter they could answer your questions about the shifting.

This is the time where manybrews is needed. I guess if anyone would know of this issue...or the remedy...he would.


I guess the only real way to fix this is for the manual guys to get the CVT :bwekk:

Eww! CTV? :P

I emailed Works info email and am currently waiting for a response.
I described the issue to them and asked about the performance of the short shifter in this case.

Now I wait...

Same thing here bud. I noticed when i first for the car that on the way to any gear you can feel something like blocking the path slightly and at some times completely. I just try to make sure to be conscience and use a bit extra force when going through gears fast ( mainly to 2nd) to make sure its fully down.

Another issue i found is that parked or stopped sometime trying to go in reverse i just can shift it into reverse. I noticed that if i tap the gas then it shifts in nicely.. i dont get it.

manual trannies block occasionally.

there are no issues with either the auto or manual trannies in these cars.

Yeah, I got that on my last 09. Either something felt like it was blocking when crossing neutral, or that it felt like it took extra force to get it to disengage from the dog collar on first gear. This happened with either relaxed or fast shifts. Felt disconcerting, to say the least. Never got that feeling with other manuals I've driven.. but they were never new.

We'll see what happens on my next 09.

Same thing with the new one.
I'm beginning to wonder if it's caused by the shift cable that's pulled/pushed by the side-to-side motion of the stick itself. Maybe it's not quite adequately aligned/calibrated. By that, I mean that it should actually be pushed in further than it actually is by the triangle resin plate when you're selecting either 1st or 2nd. (For more information about what I mean, see the TWM Performance installation manual for their short throw shifter).

Hm. Why doesn't Mitsubishi just make this work then!?
I'm taking my car in for a major service soon. I'm gonna make them look at it and do something about it...

You as a driver need to get adjusted to every different tranny.
I have had 5 other cars with manual trannys and driven many more and they all shifted differently.
I have to say that I was really suprised at the begining how hard the Lancer shifted(it was easier to get along with '84 911 with dying synchros.), but I got used to it and havent heard a single grind after couple weeks of driving.
:grin:

Well, there's differences in feeling and "personalities" between transmissions, but when I'm shifting from first into second, and I have to forceably pull it like I'm pulling a rusted flange bolt, that I think is a different coloured horse. To note, I've only ground twice in three months: Once when the reverse gear lied to me about being engaged, and once when I clutched out too soon with fourth -- but neither since I got the new car.

A few days ago, I was starting off from a stop sign a block away from my house heading home after about a half hours drive, when I shifted around 2200rpm into second, I thought I had actually broken something. The feeling I got from the stick gave me the impression the fork broke.

I limped it the next hundred feet or so slowly, pulled up in front of the house, and did a couple of shifts between first, second, and reverse. I inched it in both directions a bit. Those gears were fine.. though they felt "loose". Next problem: I could not fully engage into fifth anymore. I went sequentially and randomly between 1st through 4th and reverse, and they were all fine but fifth still wouldn't engage. I inched forward and back a bit again, still nothing. A bit later, fifth was suddenly ok again. Some wierd issue with the synchro on a seldomly used gear.

Now, as I said, this is the second Lancer 5 speed transmission I've used that has "quirks" -- the random "popping" feeling as I come out of first, the random "interference" feeling as I shift into second. I've driven other cars with low mileage and high mileage and they do feel different. However, they never gave the impression that they were created with low tolerances in their machining. I'm trying to chalk it up to shift ferocity, engine rpm, or how quickly a shift occurs after depressing the clutch pedal -- but it's not consistent at all. It's just totally random the best I can tell.

Of course, now I have another concern about the clutch pedal and either it's hydraulic piston or how well the pedal itself was actually bolted to the interior, which my last Lancer didn't have, but I'll save that for another day. Oh, and some creaking noise coming out of the engine bay when the clutch is engaging onto the flywheel, which the last Lancer also had.

Yes, I've been trying to figure out a sequence from which the gear engaging problems come - and mine is absolutely random as well. Sometimes everything is perfectly fine, some other times it's not.

I drive the car quite a bit, a bit more than average (40,000km in less than a year). So I know it quite well by now, yet the gears just baffle me till this day.

I do realize that manual transmission do lock up at times and are not always smooth - I have heard that from pretty much everyone I asked that drives a stick. But the thing that concerns me the most is the painful noise the car makes when sometimes it does pop into 2nd but sounds like something is about to break off and be left on the pavement as the car rolls down the street to a complete stop...

Warranty is great and all, but until something ACTUALLY happens the dealer won't look at it - especially if my luck is such that I'm unable to get the gears to lock up while they're testing it... :blink:

I have the same problem, and after I installed a TWM shifter and bushings, it happens about the same amount.

Hm so I guess it shouldn't really be that big of a concern then.