Well besides the fact os the subaru being newer etc, how come i cant romp one? I am good at driving, im stage 2, and so is he, same boost and parts, but his car is so F***ing torquey its unfair, im really dissapointed, iv wanted a gsx forever, and am being let down, this things not that fast, i dont know i hate how subarus are too quick i got my ass handed to me on the freeway, looked stock 02 wrx, but doubt it, any ways to SAFLEY increase the torque on one of these things? 1995 GSX

so you are a stage 2 driver..... wow you are comparing yourself with a game.... thats cool....

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its because you have the smallest turbo in the world.

sup it up! you have stage 2 what... Brakes?

probably the rudest and most unhelpful forum ever, no stage 2 car idiots, im not a stage 2 driver wow,

glad to know smart people can help

Take a joke son! what mods do you have? but don't diss on MF.com, there #1 when it comes to stuff like this...

don't feel bad man.. look at my mod list, and i only pulled 1/4 a car on one runnin the same boost as me.. he was pretty much stock, and well... i'm not.. then agian, i beet him with driving.. cars were dead even... but ya, as for the others, stage 2 tells us nothing.... are you talking stage two from a website? a link would help..

all you need to very much so stomp a suburu is a boost cont. about $400-$450 in fuel mods and a contoller and a bigger turbo.. you would be around 300 horse easy.. try that on a sub-ru...

plus you get 10 points for style compared to that box with wheels... lol

calm down, we just have never heard of a "stage 2" car before. What mods does that involve?

And what kind of subaru? an STI? A Legacy GT? a WRX? If its a wrx is it a bug eye?


THere is NO such thing as a stage 2 eclipse, there just isn't. Theres stage 2 clutches, but that doesn't mean anything without knowing the brand, as all are different.

Stock turbo for stock turbo his is biggger regardless of what car he has. SO with both of you running the same boost levels means he's pushing more air.

uhm stage 2?
http://www.dsmtuners.com/sub.php?page=2gtstage2power

if your going by that as "stage 2" you should be around 350-400hp but i doubt you have that or youd take a stage 2 wrx/legacy gts , they only make 300hp at the crank and 350ish tq at stage2 and thats if its the 2.5l versions. If it was a stage 2 STI or Legacy GT Spec B, it should of been pretty close. What mods do you have?

go stage 3 that way you'll be at a higher stage than the subie and you have to win.

Seriously? If you joking ignore this.

Do you know anything about Subaru? Anything at all? The STI is the equivlent to the EVO. The WRX is the lower end STI smaller engine smaller turbo, smaller everything.

WRX=2.0L high to mid 14 second car
STi=2.5L low 13 to high 12 second car STOCK!
THe legacy GT... ^^Has the same motor. and out runs porsche Boxer S's all day long.

Stop talking in stages. When you say hey I have a stage 2 eclipse you look like an idiot.

You can say I have a BPU eclipse GSX with a act stage 2 clutch.

or I have an EVO with cobb stage2 upgrades.

Or I have a BMW 135i with a dinan stage 2 reflash. Which by the way would be faster then all the above cars.



If you are using "staged upgrades" from DSM tuners then you have an upgraded Turbo?


Tell us what mod you have done to your car.


You want to mod your car in stages.


here:
Stage 1:
Hard intake pipe with K&N filter
Aftermaret BOV
boost controller
Boost gauge
Full 3inch exhaust from the turbo back including down pipe

Stage 2
Everything from here on out it 100% relevant to the power you want to make and the turbo you plan on using.

What do you have done to your car?

If you weren't a moron you would actually get help from the people on this site. I know for a fact that pwee has built cars that would make new Z06 owners shit them selves.

I know for a fact I have built HONDAS that will make ferrari 360 owners wonder why they just spend 144,000 on their car. I have built several 11 second DSMs its not hard its not expensive to half ass one and its so easy my 8 year old sister could do it.

This thread is so ridiculous the only reason I am leaving it open is because I honestly want to know what you have done to your "Stage 2" Eclipse GSX.

Never mind you have and I quote "downpipe, FMIC, exhaust, short ram," you have 180 AWHP maybe. If thats stage 2 shit my 3000gt is stage 27

Congratulations. Did you ever find a job or get your degree for testing water?

Alright EMC it's time to calm down a little. He did come off as an @$shole but it's hard for us not to flame him for talking about a "stage 2" eclipse with a level 3 driver which probably made him mad. I don't think he's coming back anyway so let's just let him drive around in his stage whatever eclipse cause he obvisously has no idea what he's talking about or what he's doing.

thanks pwee.