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Bo38
post Aug 6 2008, 11:12 PM
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i want a turbo ... and theres noway im getting a new car ... i gota do it somehow !
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post Aug 6 2008, 11:16 PM
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post Aug 7 2008, 04:16 AM
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post Aug 7 2008, 04:38 AM
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You need turbo? I has turbo:P
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post Aug 7 2008, 06:06 AM
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post Aug 7 2008, 08:03 AM
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QUOTE(fullmetalpanic @ Apr 27 2008, 08:49 PM)
But seriously the all wheel drive conversion is a lot of time and money..... by the time you are done you could have an Evo. Now if you just wanna turbo it and leave the front wheel thats another story.
You'll need to buy a turbo that matches your compression ratio, a ECU upgrade (either piggyback or standalone), some sort of intercooler, and blowoff valve, boost controller. Just to name a few :grin: . Do some research into what other people have done.....
Its gonna take a lot of work, but it can be done, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. So much money wasted when you could have
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Roadrace has a kit out I believe, check with them for pricing. Either way its not gonna have the power of an Evo or even a ralliart if thats what you're looking for. Replacing other engine internals ie:cams and such.... you might pull a little more power out. Won't really be able to measure it unless you try it.
However all this is its gonna cost you.... should have just waited for the ralliiart man....
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post Aug 7 2008, 02:03 PM
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first of all ... you people with evos ... are eather reaaly lucky. ... have alot of money ... or twice my age ... ( just turned 16 in may) .... my parents bought my car and pay for gass and most of the insurance ... so it wont fly with them ... many of you say its a wast and wont give me the power ..... hell i just wanta have fun ... working on my car or dirtbike is what i love doing ...someday yes ill have an evo ... and it will blow everthing out of the road ... but till then ... i gota work with what i have ... and thats this slow thing ....... rrm turbo probly sucks and i dont want it cause all there other stuff i hear isant good eather ... so anyone know where to start ? haha
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post Aug 7 2008, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE(Bo38 @ Aug 7 2008, 02:03 PM)
first of all ... you people with evos ... are eather reaaly lucky. ... have alot of money ... or twice my age ... ( just turned 16 in may) .... my parents bought my car and pay for gass and most of the insurance ... so it wont fly with them ... many of you say its a wast and wont give me the power ..... hell i just wanta have fun ... working on my car or dirtbike is what i love doing ...someday yes ill have an evo ... and it will blow everthing out of the road ... but till then ... i gota work with what i have ... and thats this slow thing ....... rrm turbo probly sucks and i dont want it cause all there other stuff i hear isant good eather ... so anyone know where to start ? haha
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So your parents bought you the car, pay the gas, and most of your insurance? How do you expect to pay for the entire turbo installation then?

I will give you all the answers you could possibly need... but first you have to answer MY question.

What is the difference between the 2008 Lancer engine and the 2008 Lancer Evolution X engine?

If you can answer that question correctly, then you will understand why everybody says "Get an Evo/RalliArt instead."
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post Aug 7 2008, 11:09 PM
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all wheel drive and turbo ... probly half as light and better springs, brakes, ect...

also ... twice as much and insurance is out the ass ... taa daaaaa !

and how do i expect to pay for the turbo ? easy with all the money im saving with noo gass! insurance ! or car payment!
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post Aug 7 2008, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE(Bo38 @ Aug 7 2008, 11:09 PM)
all wheel drive and turbo ... probly half as light and better springs, brakes, ect...

also ... twice as much and insurance is out the ass ... taa daaaaa !

and how do i expect to pay for the turbo ? easy with all the  money im saving with noo gass! insurance ! or car payment!
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*sigh* Did you even read the question in entirety? Allow me to quote myself...

QUOTE(freakingwilly @ Aug 7 2008, 8:03 PM)
What is the difference between the 2008 Lancer engine and the 2008 Lancer Evolution X engine?
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All wheel drive, weight, springs, brakes, and etc. all do not apply to the engine. I'm not trying to sound like a jerk, I just need you to answer the question so I can prove a point...

... and me dragging this out doesn't help any. So I'll just go out right and say it.

Aside from the turbo, the difference (and quite possibly the most important difference) between the 2008 Lancer engine and the 2008 Lancer Evolution engine is the Evo has reinforced internals (cranks, cam, etc.) so they can handle greater stress and higher temperatures. The stress and increased temps come from the forced induction of a turbo. Without the reinforced internals, you will have to run a ridiculously low amount of boost. Why? Because the stock Lancer internals cannot handle the boost of a turbo. Sure, RRM sells a turbo for our Lancers, but it's running like 5 or 6 PSI. It's enough to play it safe, but who knows how much stress these Lancers can take. Besides, the Evo runs anywhere from 18 to 21 PSI.

So let's see... you want a turbo? RRM is the only company that makes one... so that's $5,000 down the drain. Secondly, you're going to need to rebuild your entire engine to support the added boost of a turbo. That will run you anywhere from another $5,000 to $10,000. Remember, this is a new car... nobody makes reinforced internals for it yet and whoever does has pretty much every right to charge an arm and a leg for it.

Worst case scenario, $15,000 for your warranty voiding, pathetically weak turbo set up. Take that same $15,000 and add it to the price of a GTS... well whaddya know? IT'S THE SAME PRICE AS A BRAND SPANKING NEW EVOLUTION X!

Now to sum this ENTIRE post in one simple, easy to read sentence.

"Trade your car in and get an Evo."
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post Aug 8 2008, 12:04 AM
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what you dont get is that ... i CANT! ... insurance is too much! why would i have bought the lancer if i can afford a evo ... i garantee you can get a turbo for the lancer ( not saying its faster than an evo) ... and it still wont cost more than an evo ... IM SICK OF PEOPLE SAYING O JUST GO BUY AN EVO or rallart ... what if there wasent an evo .. would you tell me to go buy a viper or something ? im talking about a lancer not a lancer evolution! ... what if some1 wanted to make there evo faster... would you tell them to go buy a jet ?? ahhhhhhhhhhh :wacko:
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post Aug 8 2008, 11:27 AM
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Its not that we're saying you can't but you have to look at it from an angle that we're older and have worked on cars for a LONG time.... we know what we're talking about.
Its not just about bolting on a turbo and bam! you have instant power. Where are you getting the 10k for the engine swap you're basically going to have to do?
So what insurance is too high? Parents are paying for it right? If you wanted a fast car, shouldn't have gone with a lancer. Turbos are fun, but only if you have the time and money to take care of them correctly.

Also if you have to ask if you can put a turbo on this.... you are not fit to do so. You need to know what you're doing and by asking this question you show you don't.
Ya know I had crappy 100k mile cars when I was 16, not a BRAND NEW car that was paid for by my parents. Think about that before you go spouting off about how "you" can't afford it....
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post Aug 8 2008, 12:34 PM
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i agree wit fullmetal mi first car was a ford tempo that looked like it rolled down a hill wit only like fragments of bumpers and fenders and it had 188k miles and mi second car was a Suzuki swift a Suzuki swift for cryn out loud and i was stuck drivin it till the head gasket blew and the door was falln off u should just apreiciate wat ur parents gave u and just keep it till its paid off then trade it in and get an evo the ull b older and get cheaper insurance if ur a good driver
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post Aug 8 2008, 03:13 PM
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i will get a evo ... when im out of collage and have a job that pays well ... i just want to turbo the car to have fun with it ... stop all the evo talk its a lancer fourm .. the rrm turbo wont blow out the engine? if so why would they sell it ? anyone elce going to make a turbo kit ?
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post Aug 8 2008, 03:20 PM
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You arent listening... you CAN get a turbo but RRM is the only one that sells it right now. What they are trying to say is the turbo made for our cars is dumbed down to protect the engine. You can get it and try it out but its never a garentee that your engine can take it and if it blows it you will most likely lose you warrenty and be out of a car.

Everyone is just saying that if you REALLY want a turbo is to get a different car, but yes, you can still get one from RRM. Noone else makes them and there may not be anyone else to try.

One thing I didnt see and noone asked, do you have a manual or automatic?? Just for your information, if you have an automatic or CVT tranny.... there is no way possible to get a turbo.... the tranny definitly cant take it. RRM states that the turbo kit is ONLY for the manula trannies.

Dont let these guys get to you, if you want to spend the money and risk it you can go ahead and do it, just dont expect alot of boost and be cautious that the engine can blow.
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