One thing that gets meeh is that lon yur specific year ive always seen 2 crank sensors , yet yu are using one , weird. Lol. In fact tho the sensors are diffrent between those models even though plugging in. The hall effect rate that is produced by the magnet is difffrent between the models.
Sure they will look the same and even plug in the same because they need to fit in the same designated space , but their desired effect will be diffrent

Yeah, only one crank sensor!

I'm going to re-check that whole rotor thing while I wait for fuel injectors.

I wouldn't mind finding a stupid mistake right now! LOL

We'll get it!!!!

Also the rotor placment will be a little off in position to the one that of a Pajero/Montero for many reasons as SOCH and DOCH timing recamendations. As in the main referance of the SOCH on TDC referancing will be at 12 position and on DOCH it will be at 1 ( the position of the timing reluctor)

Hi Kit and other folks watching this,

I took the timing parts apart and inspected them, the rotor, timing gear, oil pump and other things are all the same...

BUT I noticed where the real timing mark is! The engine was one whole cog advanced because we were using the roll pin on the timing gear, not the tiny little reference maek on the gear! My Chiltons Service Manual showed the roll pin as the timing mark! Or something that looked like that by their poor diagram. Also, the original gear was rusty and gunky, and I did not see this mark on that gear either!

I noticed the mark in the comparison of parts. My father had originally timed the motor. I can'tblame him, as he is 60 yrs. old and has poor eyesight. Between that and the Chilton's diagram, we missed the mark!

I see in another post there was a nice diagram of the timing for a newer model, and the mark is corrct in that diagram.

That should solve the problem! My injectors will be here today!

I'll let you all know...

Jason

Thats wut i was meaning in my last timing recommendations. In teh last post i made before this one LoL.

Thank you for your help, Kit!

I'll put it together and see what happens with new injectors and proper timing!!!!

Ill be here , if im not looking just PM meeh. Ill respond.

What happened? You promised to tell.

My symptoms are simular, and I've checked a lot of the things you have. I'm in the same position. Mine won't spark on 3 (and probably 4, haven't pulled the plenum).

Please let me know what happened.

thanks,
Adam

Hi, Adam!

What happened (in a crazy, beaten, loonie voice-screaming)????

Well, we replaced the borderline looking injectors, put the plenum back on and went to start it and...NOTHING!!!!

IT"S WORSE THAN IT WAS BEFORE! IT WON"T START NOW!

No fuel!

"Dirty Terry" burned out ANOTHER MFI relay, so I ordered one from Mitsubishi. I'll have one soon!

I also sent my ECM in for service, right to friggen' HOUSTON TEXAS (hurricane Ike), so that got all screwed up, too!

So I'm kinda waiting for those parts to make another move!

Usually these symptoms are covered by replacing the Ignition Control Module (on top of the plenum), but I have a sinking feeling the ECM is bad; and is also causing my MFI relay problems. So it's worth a try...

Dangnabbit!

I'll kepp you all posted for the end of this debacle!

Jason

The ECM does cause the relay issues . clicking and noises etc

I think so too!

This is the second new relay I'm putting in because I didn't change the ECM the first time like I should have!

Now I'm just rtying to "stop the bleeding"!!!

Thanks, Kit!

Jason

I have seen this and my cousin in the states that does lots of work on Mitsubishi's. Funny to say he lives in Louisiana. And after Hurricane Gustav he said his brothers 1996 Montero SR , well it was driving fine i think , but when he got to teh store and filled on petrol , when he started it , it was running funny and "missing" i think 2 cylinders or more at times. Also he said he heard a clicking inside like around the middle , pass area dash. Well he was able to get it home.

Then his brother went to check it out. SO he started and yeah it was running and missing. Then his brother went inside and started it , it would start run a little and kill. But during taht time his brother heard clicking noises as in relay noises inside the vehicle. Then , he unplugged the ecm i think or sumthing iono , not sure and plugged it back , sumthing he did and the Montero started and ran correctly on all cylinders. His brother had already diagnosed it as the ecm tho. BUt his brotehr drove to work that night anyway. Next morining he called his brotehr cause it did not want to start.

But his brother popped in a temp 95 ECM , the check engine light was on but it started right up , and he remapped the a 96 for performance settings and popped it in and its great again

I pulled my plenum and found a nasty connector - coroded, etc... fixed that. Swapped all my plugs and wires, and put it back together.

Still no spark on 3 and 6.

Swapped in a coil pack from another car and got spark accross the board.

Still no start.

I'm looking at the fuel system now.

Did yu hook up pack all the plenum to bcm/ecm grounds. Not hooking one or hooked in an incorrect spot will create an similar issue.

I'm quite sure everything was hooked up. I'll update yall when I check the fuel system.

JThunder,

I just read your thread and some of it sounds like my last one. I just got my Montero going 100% again....problem resolved...problem was the Crankshaft Reluctor Ring.

I had a dealership here in town (Stones River Mitsubishi, Murfreesboro, TN) work on my Montero and the next week they went out of business, and the following week my engine locked up.

I rebuilt the engine myself, which I had never done before. The ignition timing was incorrect, although the belts (valve vs. cylinder timing) were on perfectly. Another dealership (Corlew Misubishi, Clarksville, TN) solved the problem. Apparently the dealership in Murfreesboro installed an incorrect crankshaft reluctor ring. They replaced the crankshaft pulley, so I know they had all of that area apart, although it didn't say anything about the reluctor ring on the bill. Maybe my opinion is bias , but I'd be very suspicious of that crankshaft ring in your case.

I may start a thread to document how Stones River Mitsubishi F*#@ed me over. I have pictures of all the shoddy workmanship that I found and bills of what they actually charged me for. I would never had found this bullsh&*! unless I tore my engine down myself. Lesson learned. If you want something done right...do it yourself.....it's hard to find someone that will put the time, attention, detail into something that isn't theirs. It can happen...but it seems like it's not so often these days.

Good luck on your vehicle....double check that ring!

Later