Hey, I'm looking for the cheapest, yet most effective way to upgrade my eclipse for more WHP. I'm not saying I want the most effective thing out there, obviously. Just something that runs max about 3 or 4 grand, something that I can work up to.

I know absolutely NOTHING about cars. I've read about swapping out some pistons and whatnot, it's a cheap solution for over 500hp, but that's in Hondas. Here's what I'm talking about:
I can make 500hp with a D series for less money than the b16 alone. Vitara pistons and tuner toy rods in a d16z6(better oil pump than y8) spend like 500$ on the ebay rod piston combo and then run 25 psi and get a tune on eCtune

This topic might seem like a bunch of nonsense slapped together, but that's only because as I've said before, I don't know what I'm talking about. I just want more power out of my car for less money. Around 400hp would be nice. More, I'm sure costs quite a bit.

Thank you for all your help.

start with 250hp and work up from there. unless you know how a 400hp car drives it will scare the hell out of you the first time the tires break loose.

you are correct with rods and pistons. if you upgrade those just like those hondas you will be ready for 400hp. a set of eagle h-beam rods, wiseco low compression pistons, metal headgasket, arp head studs, nice sized turbo like a garrett super 60, some 42lb/min injectors and you are good to go

Yeah, I know how a 400hp car handles, I drove an 05 GTO for a while. But thank you for your help, I will go from there and see how I like it.

The mods to the engine are unknown to me, all I know is that it's fuel injected which I assume is stock. It has a Greddy EVO exhaust system (it's big and loud) and an exedy stage 1 clutch. The only other mods are superficial (altezza back lights, halo's in the front, custom interior, rims). I bought the car like this, only thing I've done is added a complete JL Audio system to it.

And again, thank you for your help. If I can afford all this anytime soon, I'll let you know how it works.


***EDIT*** After searching, I've realized that the super 60 turbo doesn't exist unless it's modded. Have any clue where I could get pre-modded turbos? And also, can you give me a direct site for the wiseco pistons? Everything I've gone to just has results and whatnot, and I have no clue what a low compression ratio would be. 8.1-8.3?

I know I'm probably being a nuisance, so thank you for your patience.

Wiseco 420A DOHC 2.0L Pistons 8.8:1 - $439:
http://www.slowboyracing.com/estore/produc...cat=1132&page=1

Eagle H Beam Rods for Mitsubishi / Chrysler 420A - $349:
http://www.slowboyracing.com/estore/produc...&cat=199&page=1

Cometic Metal Head Gasket (420a) - $94.99:
http://www.slowboyracing.com/estore/produc...cat=1637&page=1

Garrett T3 60-1 Turbo (Super 60) - $879:
http://www.slowboyracing.com/estore/produc...cat=1333&page=1

As for injector sizing, Pwee, you said 42lb./min. normally injecotor sizes ar emeasured in either cc/min or lb/hr. 42lb/min = ~2520lb/hr = ~26460cc/min O.o. In case you meant 42lb/hr that is roughly 450cc/min which seems rather small for a 60-1 (Super 60) What is going on inside that crazy mind of yours? XD

Thank you for the links, here is what I turned out after searching:

[EAGLE-CRS5472N3D]
Mitsubishi Eclipse Rods 95-99 (420A Non Turbo) $299.00

[street-power.com]
HKS Mitsubishi Eclipse 95-99 Metal Head Gasket $203.60

[jazzproparts.com]
ARP-207-4203 Mitsubishi Eclipse Late $112.99

[vividracing.com]
Blitz Top Feed Injectors 1000cc Low Impedance $212.49

[vividracing.com]
Greddy SUS 4-1 Header Mitsubishi Eclipse GS $464.54

[vividracing.com]
Injen Cold Air Intake Mitsubishi Eclipse 95-98 $254.99

How is that, compared to what you gave me?

For injectors go with FIC (Fuel injector Clinic) they are amazing quality and REALLY cheap compared to competitors.

Thank you guys for your help. When I get it all set up, and hopefully learn something, I will let you know how it all went! =]

oops :blush-anim-cl: thanks for fixing that



no, not 60-1. that turbo is way too big. This is the super 60 I was talking about:
http://turboelements.com/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=16

Unless something changed FIC only makes injectors for dsm cars. the 420a cars use high impedance injectors and can't use dsm injectors without other mods

damn i stand corrected... TWICE!!!

ok you guys have been really helpful. now the only think i have left to find is the arp head studs.

also, i want to more or less create the effect of a super charger and a turbo, without getting either (might get SC later on).

so here's what i have to do that:
Supercharger: bigger cams, cam shaft, ported manifold, rollerrock bars

Turbo: Pistons, headers, rods, h-beams, big injectors

does that sound good?

Cams and camshaft are the same thing. And do not get a header if you plan on going turbo (AND ITS HEADER NOT HEADERS YOU ONLY HAVE ONE!) h-beams are a type of rod so those are the same also. You only need bigger injectors if you plan on going turbo or SC. But really, I am confused are you going for a N/A build? or are you going forced inducted?

Yes, I know it's header, I know there's only one. I don't know shit about engines but I'm kinda learning.

I'm going for N/A. i don't want to buy an SC or Turbo yet, but I'm leaning more towards SC. I want to build a muscle/tuner car. I think it'd be cool to have elements of both.

So from what you've told me, Injectors and upgrade everything else as I had planned?

(h-beams, pistons, header, studs, mtl hd gasket) and upgrade the cams etc. And how are cams and cam shafts the same thing when you buy them separately?

Well the thing is, N/A builds and turbo builds require totally different internals. You cant build for a N/A then decide to go turbo later without redoing the entire engine.

if you built for n/a you have to go high comp, and if you built for a turbo or sc, you want to go low comp, if you built with low comp and you don't have the turbo/sc, it will be very slow, right guys?
now it will be very hard to get 400hp without going force induction, so you need to decide what do you want

Flip a coin. Heads = forced induction, or tails = :P forced induction :P .