well i'm at a cross road again.....i did this post a while back when i was wanting to build a n/a 2.0 4g63 n/t motor......now it's coming back if this dude doesnt buy my car.

i checked slowboy racing and buschuracing and found everything i want except for pistons and cam's.

the highest compression i saw was weisco 9:1 pistons. anyone know if theres a higher compression liek a 10, 11, 0r 12?

cam's i heard you can use turbo cams cause there almost the same? is that true or not? cause i might consider evo cams then.....

this is just an idea that's been brought back up cause i was looking at my car and i think i might hold onto it and just build it once i get out of school.

my goal is to eventually build a sick 200+whp honda civic hatch or coupe with a b-18c1 gsr motor and have a lot of fun at beaverun raceway when im in my late 20's.

thanks for the help if anyone has some info to help me out.

are you serious? you would rather build a 200whp civic instead of a 400hp dsm?

i think i finally discovered the appeal of hondas. i was driving my old 102hp galant around yesterday, and even though its surprisingly slow, that car, its still a lot of fun to drive. Hondas will never be the fastest cars in the world, but because they dont weigh anything, it doesnt take much to make them decently quick. their low weight and cheap price make them the obvious choice for younger tuners/ricers. power doesnt necessarily equal fun. its all about how a car feels.

that being said however, ill stick with my modified GSX, hehehe.

also, im betting you cant find higher compression pistons because the pistons you are looking at are for a turbo car. the turbos dont need high compression pistons. that being said, i have no idea where you should look to find some high compression pistons for a n/t 4g63.

Ross and Wesico both do custom pistons. Shoot them an email.

200 whp honda will throw you back in your seat. ive been in one and its quicker than anything boosted/domestic cause its tuned properly

400whp dsm will ( fill in blank) turbo doenst fit me sorry guys. im all about n/a :)

In steps me.

Tox- we've had this discussion before. They don't make high compression pistons for the engine you have.

And every one else, I've seen in person a Turbo 1991 Honda CRX BLOW its engine before the 1/8th mile mark and COAST across the 1/4 mile line running a 10.1... Power to weight ratio... This car is also street legal and driven on the road.

And before anyone says anything about it blowing up... remember this is a DSM site, how often do these fucking things suck ass.

Honda mode off.

Tox boost the fucking thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you cant base your entire opinion of a car brand on a single shining example. i wont deny that hondas are good cars; i actually just stated my position on them a few posts up, but on the whole they arent road warriors.


anything making power has a higher chance of breaking something. hondas dont typically break because they are slow. DSMs arent as unreliable as everyone makes them out to be; its the tards who beat on them every day and dont do regular maintenance who complain about breaking stuff.

basically, i think you generalized a bit too much in this post.

well im looking for reliability, not a spool of air that gets me down the track quicker when that time comes.

i know the 4g63 block can take a beating and handle well over 600hp for a turbo setup, but right now i'm not looking to boost my car, or never boost a car, unless i get an eveo when im outa school, then its a different story lol.

i also know is that for every 100lbs you lose on a car(weight reduction) you knock off a 1/10 of a second in a 1/4 mile

the dude who said power/weight ratio is correct. thats why hondas are so quick because they barely weigh anything. and their putting power to the wheels.

well enough about my little tanget.....and i dont see whats so fascinating about turbos......your more vulnerable for breakage if its not properly installed (boost pressure turned up max for daily use for some retarded reason) i'm not saying anyone on this forum who has a boosted eclipse and knows what their talking about. i'm glad theres people who make sense and take time to see its done right (you guys who who know your shit). i just hear as much about kids these days strapping on a turbo kit to their eclipse or honda (why did god make a d-series turbo? why?????) and they think they own the street. next thing you know, manifolds cracked, pistons shot etc etc etc.... they dont realize that with great power comes great responsibility (spiderman quote) lol

anyone agree with me?

way off, decreasing a 1/4 mile time eventually becomes exponential. So maybe a full weight stock car will drop 1/10th off by 100lb weight reduction from 14.4 but if you have an 10.0 car you aren't going to get to 9.9 just by removing 100lbs.........if that was the case you wouldn't see fat race car drivers

anyway, you've made your case. here are some 10:1 pistons:
http://www.magnusmotorsports.com/engines/dsm.htm#Pistons

and here are some cheaper ones:
http://www.slowboyracing.com/sbs/sbr_produ...&cat=209&page=2

they don't go any higher than 10:1 from what I can find.

word, thanks man.....i take it those are n/t pistons from that site? :banana:

yeah i checked slowboyracing and buschurracing, no help.

okay now that the piston issue is taken care of, cam's? can evo cams fit a dsm? since they both are 4g63 motors? never heard of it so thats why i asked.....

they are just high comp pistons for race motors. When you are trying to build a ton of power with a turbo car 10:1 pistons help BUT thats also running alcohol. In your case they will just increase compression for n/t application. turbo and non turbo 4g63's both have the same bore

I don't know about the evo cams but it would be better to find n/t oversized cams because turbo cams are specifically designed to allow certain pressures at certain times to decrease spool time and increase flow

+1 The turbo cams don't work very well on non-turbo motors. Sometimes, the engines won't even run.

i had a feeling someone would say that. what about performance cams? i just see turbo application cams hks, crower etc etc.....

but i defiently found a head build and everything do-able except for cams <_<

i also found a intake manifold and possible throttle body.....could be wrong but i did see a throttle body at one point on a website and i wished i saved it.....

thanks for the help people. :liebe011:

Just get some 272's.

those work? both intake and exhaust are 272?