Hi All,

It's me again :P :P ...

I am glad to find and join this forum.... in case you guys are interested to find out how other Airtreks are doing in other countries, like in Singapore, please take a look here... (the English used in the Spore Mitsubishi-Airtrek Club can be a bit weird because of use of local words... hehehehhee)"-

http://forums.delphiforums.com/Airtrek/start

Have fun and there are two other Airtrek/Outlander Owners Clubs in Malaysian,....

Cheers

@caterham:
Jeez, that seems to be an expensive tuning you got there :o
How much has it cost so far and how much power have you gained?
I'd be glad just to reach the power you've got in your stock model ;)


@TURBO MITSU:
3900 KM and so far no problems at all :thumbsup:
Yes, I heard about that the clutch is the weak point of the EVO.
A good friend borrowed me a lightly tuned EVO6 3 weeks ago and when I asked him if there was anything special that I should think on and he said;
When gettin to a red traffic light, put in the neutral gear, do not wait for the green light with the clutch down.

ummmm.... let me try to list some prices (including part n labour cost):-

- highflow cat: US$190
- 2nd hand Evo8MR cams (with springs and retainers): US$570
- Endless front brakes (with steel-braided hose and 700degC pads): US$2800
- convert stockmuffler to "straight-thru": US$90
- Espiler springs: US$200
- 2nd hand Blitz boost controller: US$370
- 2nd hand Evo8 oil cooler: US$400
- high performance ATF cooler: US$230

it's not a small sum to spend on a daily car, but i guess since i go for trackdays this is something worth spending, especially the brake and cooler upgrades :(

i ran out of money to do dyno test, so i could only guess my power gain: about 50-60 hp, and shaved 0-100 kmh timings from about 8.2 sec to 7.0 sec.

Ah OK, thx for the info :thumbsup:
Yep, I'd already guessed that you spent a small fortune on your car :rolleyes:
Much money on the brakes I see, of course I understand that, you take your car and drive it on the track, that's the only reason to make that investment.
Good luck with everything and have a nice weekend :)

Hi !


I have question : why did u change the factory cams for the Evo8MR cams ?
Did u have any clutch problem ?

I'd guess he changed them to gain more power, that's the only reason I can come up with, and maybe a more rapid response when putting the "pedal to the metal"

People with non-turbo cars often change cams to gain power, that's a solid way to tune a car :)

ok, but why was that necessary in the begining of the tuning ? If u have bigger turbo, other Pistons, Motec... and wanna more power, i understand, but for 280hp really not. with other Cams there will be no power lower RPM, and the fuel consuption will much higher.
What do u think about this tuning for the Outlande turbo : complete other exhaust system, Electronic boost controll, and K&N air filter. with this do u think so the 280hp available foolproof ?

i uploaded some pictures about the Galant :http://www.mitsubishi-forums.com/2003-Mitsubishi-Galant-code12-cid167.htm

yes, with the MR cams, i find the response to my right foot much more rapid, and the boost climbs much faster too with my stock turbo charger. Another reason is that near new used evo cams are easily available and their prices are reasonable because most local owners of new evos upgrade their cams within weeks, if not days, of collecting their car from the showroom. it's a relatively straight forward swap just like plug-and-play, but of course it will be ideal if we could re-map the ecu to optimise the cams' full potential.

Hi,

Since the MR cams do not really give me big gain in power, the stock triptonic gear box could still handle the power.

From what i know, the stock triptonic gear box could handle up to about 350hp!

If your Outlander/Airtrek comes with a manual gearbox, i could only guess it should be ok if you are talking about similar power gain as what i have.

cheers

My reason for changing the cams before turbo or ecu upgrades is that i find the cam upgrade a relatively simple modification and in a way it paves the way for future mods. Also, what i paid for the cam upgrade is cheaper than turbo or full ecu (maybe even piggy-back) upgrades.

As for the upgrades you mentioned, my guess is that you should be able to gain about 20-25 hp or slightly more if you choose the right system. Some exhuast systems give you gain hi rev power/torque but loss in low rev and may not be what you like in daily urban driving.

For fuel consumption i find that it's about the same, or even slightly better if i do not push the car too hard. But when i start to push it hard, the fuel consumption increases, that is it goes from the normal 7.5-8.3 km per litre to as bad as 6.3 km per litre! :crying:

Cheers

one more thing:- the MR cams i use are quite 'mild', so there's no loss in low end torque and the engine runs smooth at idling speed. However, one of my friends upgraded to Tommie cams which have higher lifts, he suffers loss in low end torque :crying:

ok ! thank u, than i understand the situatin !!
only 20-25Hp ? that is not too much ! should install an EVO intercooler under the front bump ?
one more thing : the Outlander Turbo is 205 hp, and the Airtrek is 240hp, what is the differences ?
What do u think about the Electronics Boost controll, is the right way for simple, but effective tuning ?

Nobody is here ? :o :( :crying:

first: the 2.5L engine is different from the 2.0L (240hp), the latter is a detuned 4G63 block which is used in the Evo (claimed 280hp stock). I am not too sure if the 2.5L is the same as that used in the US spec Evo.

an electronic boost controller is a relatively straight forward (at least in terms of installation) add-on to increase boost, and therefore performance up to a point ---- that is for a stock airtrek turbo, it's good to limit to the boost to about 1.4bar. you can immediately feel the difference when the boost is increased.

(sorry for late reply, have been busy with work and errands lately :crying: )

in the Outlander Turbo and in the Airtrek Turbo is the 2.0 liter turbo engine ( 4G63T ) but in the Airtrek 240hp. But yet nobody can tell me so the 2 engine is total the same exept the Boost is higher in the Airtrek.
I talked with many people in Hungary about the tuning. They said so the EVC is right for first, but with this i can use my car with 0,1- 0,2 bar higher boost-safety ( but than i can increase the power with 10-15hp max ) . with this Boost can work together the stock ECU normally. After this can be problem, becasue need more fuel ( APEXI SAFC ) and set the ingniton... so the best EVC and other ECU for the higher boost. What do u think about it ? I dont like it too much... but maybe it is the effective and safety way. my problem i dont wanna use it always higher Boost, but with other ECU need use it higher boost.

.... i talked with a guy who has a turbo Eclipse. He said so with the EVC ( Boost contr. ) we can set higher boost safety, but need a Boost gauge and AFR - air fuel ratio gauge. on this we can see which is the highest boost when has enough fuel.
with too high boost without enough fuel we can damaged the pistons.
now i m happy, becasue with it we can get more hp safety with low prize .
but im interesting in other people opinion :)

The Outlander arrived!!!!!!!!! :D looks like very great in black !!!!!! very nice car.
next week we will get it. than i will take some pic. i wish i can order anything for it from the ebay. I wanna a Pio Avic X1 and some gauges :D

You can refer to Mitsubishi Airtrek Club There has a bunch of people with Airtrek or Outlander.

(sorry guys, i am side-tracking here....)

hi klow,

are you guys in KL and know ah soon? few airtreks from singapore will be at sepang on 16 july 1-4pm, you are welcome to visit us at the pitlane :-)

cheers