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> 95 Eclipse Gs, Turbo Upgrade
abaddon_baliel
post Oct 7 2008, 10:41 AM
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::I had to make a new topic since the site won't let me post a reply for some reason::

Alright so, after 3 days of no one replying to my post I had listed, I realized why: I'm an idiot. I've done some research on my own and asked around a bit, and come to my own conclusions and learned some things. So in a way, thanks for ignoring me? lol idk what to say to that really.

The only question I really have now, is why shouldn't I get a header if I'm going turbo? I'll give you the run down on what I'm doing now, (my thoughts have changed dramatically since my first post, and I sounded like an idiot most of the time).

I'm going for this turbo kit: http://www.slowboyracing.com/estore/produc...aram=1223382178

As for the engine mods, I'm getting the Wiseco low compression pistons, ARP head studs (do I need main studs too?), Eagle H-Beam rods, (was going to get cometic metal head gasket but won't till you tell me if I even should), and the kit I listed includes pretty much everything else (fuel pump, injectors, intercooler, down pipe, manifold, etc.).

So I have two main questions: is this a good kit, and why do I/do I not need a header?

Thanks a ton, you guys have really been great for putting up with me. Most of my ideas were retarded, but I'm just now learning about all of this. And reading through even now, I realize how much I didn't know (and still don't).
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post Oct 7 2008, 10:59 AM
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well I would also buy with slowboy cause you know your gonna get a good kit, BUT why not SAVE yourself over $1000 and buy this

http://www.mitsubishi-forums.com/t39073-hr...-kit-4-sale.htm

use what you saved on the cost difference for tuning or something else
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post Oct 7 2008, 12:16 PM
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no, you don't need main studs but they are relatively cheap so if you want you can put them in.

cometic or felpro metal headgasket is the way to go. cometic is the more popular one.

that is a good kit but you have to spend around $3600 to get everything you need because the base kit doesn't come with fuel mods.

you don't need a header because turbos bolt to manifolds

everyone starts out somewhere :thumbsup:
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post Oct 7 2008, 06:13 PM
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Alright, thanks again for the help. I'll go ahead and get the main studs too, it's not too much.

I was reading another post, and the guy mentioned needing studs to bolt on to the manifold, wiring(?), and a filter... does this kit have those and if not where could I get some good, reliable ones?

Also, should I get a DSMlink? What would that do for me, and is my car even capable of using it?

And I know getting a turbo kit I need some gauges or whatever, obviously don't know what I have to get... any help here? I don't wanna go through sites and buy a bunch of shit and not know what I'm getting or what I need it for.

Thanks for all the help.

::Edit:: I was just doin some searchin seeing how my 20's would look on my eclipse, and found one with a reversed hood. Not lookin for info on it, I'm gettin the SS hood so I'm pretty sure it can't be reversed, just thought it was neat and would bring it to your attention, if anyone would want to reverse their hood. However, if I CAN get the SS hood and have it open in reverse, that'd be great and I would like to know how to do it. :57:
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I have 2 brand new gauges only installed for the blue background lighting. I have a boost and air to fuel ratio gauge. Both the gauges have a bright blue background lighting which looks cool at night. I will sell em to you for $55 shipped if your interested.
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post Oct 7 2008, 08:36 PM
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dsm links dont work on 420a's

and if you put 20's on it

ever see fast and furious?

when they get in the wrong "gang" area and run into those ****s with the bikes?

that will be me

and i will shoot your car with my mac 10 and blow your shit sky high


20's dont belong on dsms
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post Oct 7 2008, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(greenydsm @ Oct 7 2008, 08:36 PM)
dsm links dont work on 420a's

and if you put 20's on it

ever see fast and furious?

when they get in the wrong "gang" area and run into those ****s with the bikes?

that will be me

and i will shoot your car with my mac 10 and blow your shit sky high
20's dont belong on dsms
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hahahaha.... the only reason I'm doing that is the rims I want only come in 20s. And I love these rims. I was thinking about talking to the company to see if they'd do custom 16s or 17s for me, but I doubt it. I was still gonna try, but figured I might as well say 20 since I doubt they'd do it for me.

And in response: I'd hunt your **** ass down and slaughter you on your crotch rocket. =]
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post Oct 7 2008, 11:03 PM
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Rims..........don't make your car any faster. An SS hood dosent either. Dosen't matter which way it opens. If you even inquire about lambo doors, wings west, or underglow...... :gunsmilie: ........... just dont :thumbsup: . They all make your wallet lighter tho. The stock rims look fine. The stock hood looks fine. Save your money for under the hood and behind the tires.
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post Oct 8 2008, 07:21 AM
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I never said rims make your car faster, neither did I say the SS hood does. The hood would, if I got ram air built into it. And I said rims make your car SLOWER depending on the size, which is why I said I wanted the smallest size I could get but I am getting those rims.

And this is going to be a SHOW CAR, I'm just wanting speed for other reasons. I'm well aware the way the hood opens doesn't affect the speed.. I mean really, come on.

Just stick with the main topic unless I say something that you can actually say something back to, AND make sense. :57:
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Come on now...... Can't we all just get along? hehe
Honestly though, I would choose one or the othher. Show or Go.
IMO, don't waste a lot of "go" money, on "show". Yeah, have your car look smooth, but don't waste tons on accesories. PUT DOWN THE WINGS WEST CATALOG, AND STEP AWAY FROM THE BURRITO!! hehe
And I don't care what anybody says, I think lambo doors are cool. So, PHHT!
As for 20's uhhhhh..... seriously, don't. The biggest we can go on our cars is lus sizing to a 19. Bigger than that, and you have to mod the wheel wells, and the suspension, and een then, you can't lower it. Trust me, it will NOT look good at all. If you really want to go big, put some 235 - 245/30ZR19's on it. That is still going to be pushing it, and still won't look that great. Go with some 18's, lower it, and it will look good.
Do the "go" first. Everythng after that is cake.
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As far as the "GO" aspect.. that's why I'm here. I can take care of the "SHOW" part of it. That's relatively cheap. As for the 20's, I stated I did not want 20's I want 17's. And lambos are a must. Already lowered.

As for the go, since that is what this is about...what wiring and whatnot is needed for the turbo, and does the kit I am looking at come with EVERYTHING I need or do I need more? A list would be great, just a general outline.

And it wasn't a burrito.... it was a taco. :grin:
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Already been answerd. And pinned. Look it up.
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post Oct 11 2008, 07:30 PM
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Okay, this is my paper-plans so far. Please tell me what I'm missing, and don't just say "it's already been posted and pinned." I've read that post 500 times and still don't know exactly what I need. I don't understand the "get some new springs and coverings" and shit, as I've explained before I don't know engines, so take it like this: I'm an idiot, and I want to built a fast car, so I need as much help and explanation as possible. I've looked up alllllllllll kinds of things, and have no clue what I'm looking at. I need a very strict guide, from someone who knows what they're doing. This is a pain I'm sure, but hell this is voluntary. You don't HAVE to post back to me. You don't HAVE to help me. So if you're going to post, and you're going to help, don't bitch about it or try to start something, just help. Remember, I'm an idiot. I do the slamming for you, so you can do the helping for me. So onto my build:

PERFORMANCE:
Cometic Metal Head Gasket $93.00
Eagle H-Beam Rods $299.00
ARP Head Studs $93.50
ARP Main Studs $60.00
Injen Cold Air Intake $254.99
Wiseco 420A DOHC 2.0L Pistons 8:8:1 $439.00
STAGE 3 Surge Adj. Perf. Chip w/ O2 Sensor Cntrl. $299.99
SBR 420A Turbo Kit $3695.00
3" Apexi GT Downpipe $249.95 (replacing the one in the kit)
TOTAL: $5443.92

Contents of Turbo Kit:

Intercooled Kit Includes:
57 Trim Garrett Turbocharger
Turbonetics 420a T3 Turbo Manifold Log Style
SBR -10 mm banjo adapter
SBR -10 Garrett oil drain fitting
Greddy Type RS bov
Greddy Bov flange
Stainless steel down pipe
SBR 2G Front Mount (24" long, 12" high and 3.5" wide)
Stainless steel intercooler piping.

Fuel Upgrade Includes:
Apexi S-AFCII
Accell 550cc Injectors
Walbro 255 Fuel Pump
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post Oct 11 2008, 08:35 PM
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i didnt know a safcII can handle over 500cc
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It comes with the slow boy racing turbo kit so I assume it does? I don't know.

I noticed the kit didn't specify if it included the hardware necessary to install the fuel upgrade, so I did some probing and found I should get these things if it does not:

-6 SS line from tank to filter
-6 SS line and fittings from filter to rail
AEM fuel rail
Apexi AFC Neo or DSM Link Fuel Map
Fuelab Fuel Filter Element - 40 micron SS, Long -6in/out

But I believe I was told that a DSM link won't go with my car? So do I not need to upgrade the fuel mapping system? (<-- you see, perfect example of me talking, having no clue what I'm talking about.)

So I need a hi-flo fuel rail that FITS the 420a, the -6 stainless steel lines, new element, and map?
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post Oct 13 2008, 08:35 AM
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QUOTE(abaddon_baliel @ Oct 11 2008, 07:30 PM)
PERFORMANCE:
Cometic Metal Head Gasket $93.00
Eagle H-Beam Rods $299.00
ARP Head Studs $93.50
ARP Main Studs $60.00
Injen Cold Air Intake $254.99
Wiseco 420A DOHC 2.0L Pistons 8:8:1 $439.00
STAGE 3 Surge Adj. Perf. Chip w/ O2 Sensor Cntrl. $299.99
SBR 420A Turbo Kit $3695.00
3" Apexi GT Downpipe $249.95 (replacing the one in the kit)
TOTAL: $5443.92

Contents of Turbo Kit:

Intercooled Kit Includes:
57 Trim Garrett Turbocharger
Turbonetics 420a T3 Turbo Manifold Log Style