how do able is it to remove the AWS on these cars?
second, what is the weight loss with them being out.
and last do they drive pretty much the same.
i haven't really noticed a difference in driving between my 3000GT and my R/T TT. (except i can feel the 3000 being lighter)

Go to this site - www.3si.org. Register. Once you have registered, go to this link http://www.3si.org/forum/f116/aws-delete-u...ts-pics-430924/. It's a walk thru with pics on AWS delete.

As far as what the difference will be, weight is an obvious one of course, and you lose your higher speed manouverability without AWS. Some people say it does nothing anyways, others like me actually think it's very good. I'm not sure it's worth having and one day may actually remove it myself. All the best.

Scotty

thanks for the link. i'm a member there and usually search all 3000GT questions i have there, but didnt find that link at all.
i'm also not a fan of the search feature they have, kinda sucks at times.

you like it at high speeds, but how often do you really get anything from it?
obviously its a weight reduction, but what kind of weight are we talking about here?
just looking for the all over info before i start any kind of project on it.

If it's not leaking, leave it alone. The weight reduction is so minimal, it's not worth dropping your rear subframe to do it properly, and just blocking it off nets you absolutely NO weight-savings. You have a better chance of fucking something up if you start digging around in there and don't know what you're doing.

fair enough, thats exactly what i wanted to know.

i figured it was one of the reasons we are so danm heavy. but you say its not that much at all? are we talking less then 100lbs?

every 100lbs is .05sec off your mil time or some shit like that
some one toled me

its .1 second
and i'd do it for better drivablility. i know that sounds dumb being that i'm removing AWS. but i found the drivability of my 3000GT (the base model) a lot more satisfying.
basicly i want my car to weigh 3400lbs. i know its very achieavable.
removeing AC(i'm a windows down kinda guy)
aftermarket exhaust
already got Enkie rims
put in some nice corabeau seats

just strip out the pointless extras that I PERSONALLY dont use. and make it more suited to me.

but i have plenty of time to do this project right. i plan on finishing after next deployment (christmas of 2010)
i'm thinking a nice set of turbos (nothing to big, maybe some 15G's or DR500's, just something to stand me apart from a regular 3/s)
probably do a CIANI front bumper with a 1G 3000GT body kit and don't know on my spoiler either a 99 or a 1G 3000gt stock.
basicly class it up a bit without going to far from the stock look. while making lighter and more drivable.

very achievable indeed, mines down to approx 1500kgs ~3300lbs with just lightweight 16" mags and 3" single exhaust and minimal weight saving in the car
must be missing some parts or something haha, had the car weighed at the local truck weight station

not too accurate i might have to use the car scales at work

hmmmm, your curb weight is 3800 right? because that a 500lb drop. thats like almost and engines worth of weight?
maybe its possible.
i've also got another weight loss idea. drive threw puddles until my car rust so bad its light!
but what else have you done to get the weight down? i planned the single exhaust too....

if by curb weight you mean, what it weighs sitting on the curb with me not in it, then yea its closer to 1500kgs/3300lbs

it was 1700kgs/3750lbs with me and a mate (90kgs each) and a complete full gas tank, full tank is 75litres so presumably approx 75kgs
that was before i changed to single exhaust, which was just a straight 3" pipe, so no cats or mufflers in the middle, then out left to a muffler+tip.
i picked up the original dual exhaust and it was noticably a lot heavier than the new one


mmm bear in mind i have a GTO where as you guys have the 3000gts, although they are very similar, they are different in key parts of the car (so ive heard)

also ive removed the spoiler, active aero, active exhaust, aerial, cruise control but i doubt they would have too much of an impact

AWS was on my list of things to remove, which would save the most weight but i reckon i would miss the extra turning ability on New Zealands winding roads
i read/saw somewhere of replacing the rear steering arms with rods but i dont think i would trust it, especially whilst throwing the car round the local track. because essentially the whole ass end is swinging loose without the 2 small rods you replace the steering with. alignment could be an issue too

i found an old topic on our New Zealand GTO forum that might be on some help, its about removing AWS

http://forums.3000gtperformance.co.nz/view...p;sk=t&sd=a

The GTO and 3000GT are identical in every major aspect, with some minor differences here and there (tail light colors, front bumper signals, RHD, no AWS on the MR's, and I believe in Europe they had a 13g turbo option. but as far *key* parts are concerned... they're the same.

4 Scotty

lol... I didn't know it was Lewis' thread. I guess you can do what you want with your own threads man. This one looks alright tho. Good info.

Em - do you really think it's not worth it? It's quite a weight saving from what I have heard. I know you and hanz have probably removed quite a few by now. But if someone wants to go to the effort of taking it out, I think it's fair enough to try.

Thanks Bob.

Unless he's building a pure drag car (which he isn't), then the savings is not worth dropping the entire rear subframe, making/installing block off plates, removing the power steering lines to the back, etc, etc. If they're not leaking, don't fuck with it, You're asking for headaches.

long long story as to why the topic was deleted. hopefully its over now and that pain is my ass is gone..... hopefully.

as for the info, emlie if it really is that big of a pain in the ass then i probably won't do it. but also keep in mind, this is purely a project car. it will be parked (torn apart) for some time (probably a year) and i am going to take care of every single issue it has. i want it to leave my garage in imaculate shape. better then brand new. so i can do bigger projects, just as long as they aren't to rediculiously hard.

A good saying I heard off one of my fave tv shows - "learn by doing". I think you should do it. It's going to sit round, why not have a go and see what happens. I'm all for it. You'll know the diference between with and without first hand.

go scrubs!

yeah, but in that case if they mess up someone only dies. in MY CASE i break a car. you think i'd take that risk?????????

Nice chronos. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Yes Lewis, I think you would and should.

Scotty