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Aug 20 2009, 12:12 PM
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Do yu kno if any moisture , water or anything could have gotten near the PCM/ECU? It is easy to check the coils , altho i do not think that is the issue. Hmmm , checking the crank position sensor to make sure the portion that rides between the sensing blade. The sensing blade can wear the sensor section down. It would require removing the crank pulley and belts and timing cover.
The ignition coils also are easy to check. The PCM/ECU has a 4 bolt bracket on most with a slotted section. This may be the reason it is hard to remove. I will look for sum technical diagrams for yu to aide yu if i can.
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Aug 23 2009, 08:35 PM
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As ive have noticed coils should always get a positive voltage cranking , but the other terminal is a referance signal to make the coil ignite . The referance comes frum the PCM. There should be a primary voltage signal with ignition on. Most coil per cylinder most have 2 wire , a ignition on hot and the other grounding signal is sent frum the PCM to make the coil ignite. AS in sum GDI 1996-2001 have a power transistor that intersects the ignition coils ( 1 coil per cylinder setup) . But most GDI as of 2000 up have power transistor in the coil assembly. So sum have a 3 wire plug in. A key on power 12v , a ground and a signal referance frum the PCM.
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Aug 25 2009, 02:27 PM
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Are yu receiving a referance signal? Hopefully the issue is caused mayb e by fouled spark plugs. Did yu check resistance at the boot leads. When yu pulled the spark plugs , wut did the tips look like? Dark , or whittish or inbetween?
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Aug 27 2009, 09:40 AM
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The referance signal is not a 12v signal frum the pcm. The referance usually is a very low voltage signal , up to 5v or a low voltage earth signal. Yu can test the coils by putting one the old plugs in the coil with the coil off and touch the tip of the plug to a ground , as in the cam cover bolt. With the coil plugged in , have the car turned over , and see if there is spark at the plug . If a spark is being supplied , there may be another issue at hand.
With a proper plug in , one that plugs into the coil , the coil, can be bench tested this way. Bench testing the coil will tell if there is sumthing else that is keeping the coils frum operating as in the security system , or open ground etc.
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Sep 2 2009, 10:23 AM
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Okies , so before yu had ignition power and a ground to the coil ? But now yu replaced the main fuse that will send power to all the main accessories like PCM etc yu have no longer ignition on power to the coils? Seems funny. Was the battery replaced recently? The 100 will not likely burn unless sumthin large shorted it. Like a battery being improperly put or the cables . Was this the onlee fuse burned?
Most Space Wagons i have seen , GDI and V6 models also have a large MAX fuse on the battery cable at the battery and also in the fuse box located near the battery. NOt sure which yur refer to. Seems odd that it would do that unless another fuse , possibly one that may have been causing issue burned. Or the immobilizer tripped , cutting ignition power to the coils
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Sep 2 2009, 04:41 PM
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I wish i had better answers. Do yu kno if the injectors are fuel system is operating. Does it still turn over? Could be a possible fault with the PCM or immobilizer ECU. Im really trying to think. But in most cases its hard to say , the Immobilizer usually stops the injectorts and fuel pump , not really the ignition coils. So as why yu are before having 12v at the coils with ignition on , and now since yu replaced the MAX fuse there is no longer 12v present at the coils with ignition on.
Seems sumthing faulty within the system. Or even ETACS-ECU. When the ignition key is on power is sent back to the 12v relay that should send power to the coils. Like the main IGN power relays etc. Its an odd thing to have power before and loss of power to the coils now
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Sep 3 2009, 01:40 PM
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I say that there may be an electrical issue cause by the whole episode. It may be causing power relays that power the coils and other ignition system like coils etc to act invertedly. Since yu smell petrol , for the most part the PCM seems to be commanding the fuel pump , and the immobilizer should not be triggered. When yu turn on the ignition switch it will send a 12v signal to the fuse panel near the battery commanding the power relays . Its a very odd thing. A poweer issue seems at the junction block near the battery , hard to say its at the ignition switch
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