I've been borwsing CAI and I have a question;

Why does Injen says his intake will add 11 hp while K&N talk about 6hp?

Both CAI seems the same. Anyone knows?

For those who installed a CAI, do you really notice the added power?

Thanks.

the bends on the pipes are different and the maf sensor isnt in the same location. not to metion that the k&n intake is a short ram intake. ive noticed better throttle response from my sri. im pretty sure people with cai notice a difference also

And what are the differences between short ram intake and cai?

Sorry, I'm a noob.... but learning noob (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

EDIT

I did some reading and it seeme that sri gives more power at low end but overall cai seems more sexy....

Does sri really helps on low end? How will both compare on a 0-60 race?

Difference is a CAI should technically pull in cooler, denser air because its filter is located outside the engine bay, which means more high end power. An SRI is going to give you better throttle response due to the shortness of the tube, but it could be affected by engine heat, but there is alot of debate about that. Myself, I think the wide open grill on the front of the lancer provides great heat disipation and therefore engine heat is not a factor on an SRI in this car. I did some heat testing and my testing confirmed that.

Yes SRI helps on low end. CAI on high end. CAI gives you a few ponies more overall, but is more expensive.

0-60 race, SRI wins.

SRI is a bit easier to maintain.

IMO, I think the black rubber/silicone tube for the injen CAI is ugly. People seem to be impressed by the SRI look when I show it to them.

Ok, thanks for the input.

What I was looking for at first was low end power and faster 0-60.

After reading lots of things, I'm confused whether to get sri or cai. I'll continue reading.... Evreything I read was making me think about getting a cai... but then NY-09GTS have pretty solid arguments...

If you look at the dyno sheets provided by injen for their CAI you'll see that the torque curve at the low end dips just below the stock curve, so in essence, for a split second you will actually have less torque than a stock lancer would have. I've also read of people with the injen cai experiencing low end bog, but have also read about how much more it pulls around 6000 rpm as compared to an sri. Really depends on how you drive and what you want to get out of it. If you just want the car to breath better save your money and get an SRI, it will provide power across the full rpm range. If your going to go to the drag strip alot or drive around in the high rpm range all the time, then go for a CAI. If your going to be doing auto-x or road course type driving/racing, then a sri may be better bet for the low-mid end power to get in and out of turns faster. Either way the hp and torque difference between the two is minimal. Put a lancer with a cai and one with an sri next to each other and the better driver is going to win, not the "better" intake.
I've stated on here before, I was always a CAI man on my previous cars, this is the first car that I got an SRI for and I have no regrets at all. I did the research and got what best fit my needs.

did you noticed more power with the sri or it's not that noticable?

its not a matter of noticing more power because of the intake... Mitsubishi did a great job of "dumbing" down the engine tothe point where anything you do would actually help free up more power. so no matter what you choose you will feel a difference. I personally felt a tad quicker pickup off the line with my sri and plusestar plugs(still debateable on here but lets not get into that). and the added growl can actually trick your mind into thinking that you gained alot more power than you really did just y how agressive the engine sounds after adding an intake. if you are looking to go the sri route check the classified ads mine is still for sale.

You should be able to notice a small difference. I noticed better throttle response and an increased pull in the mid rpm range, but remember your taking about only adding 7-10 horsepower, not a jaw dropping figure, so you may not notice anything at all unless you know what feeling your supposed to get from experience. (if that makes sense)

I read an article that said most normal people cannot notice any gains when adding under 30 horsepower. They did a study on it. Once they got above adding 30 horsepower people then seemed to notice the change.

Best way to notice the change is get a dyno done with the car stock, then get another after you add your intake. The dyno will show you the gain, whether you feel it or not.

I drive since many years and I know how a car respond but I'm totally new to this tuning/modifying thing. I think this Lancer is nice but I'd like a little more acceleration at around 3000 rpm.Between 4500 and 6000 I think its nice. So I really don't know what to expect from these things but if there is a difference I'll surely notice it.

if your looking for low end then you want a sri and the pulley... that should get more tq to the wheels... cai wont give you that extra jump off the line.

ok.... but what if I'm going at 65 mph in 5th gear and at 3000 rpm? Will SRI help?

IMO i would say that you might want to go with the CAI because you wont be in low RPM's for long once you hit around 3500-4000 RPM's you are better of with the CAI for power.

hard to decide.... what I'm looking for is really more power in the 3000-3500 range. When I'm pressing the accelerator in 5th gear like I said in my previous post. Just a faster acceleration from around 65 mph to 80 mph. I don't go really faster then that.

Maybe if you read this it will help you in your decision? let me know if this helps you out at all in your decision.

Cold Air Intake vs Short Ram Intake
We get the question all the time - "What's the difference between a short ram intake and a cold air intake?". We'll explain it here quickly, and then go into more detail. Basically, a cold air intake is designed to keep the air filter outside of the engine bay and a short ram intake is designed to keep the air filter in the engine bay. So what does this mean? The short ram intake is cheaper, and typically produces less horsepower. The cold air intake produces more horsepower, but is generally more expensive. There are also different types of short ram intakes that we will explore.

Short Ram Intake
The typical short ram intake is designed with a few key points. First, it has to be easy to install, and typically only requires standard hand tools. Second, it has to increase horsepower while being a relatively inexpensive modification. A short ram intake is called a short ram because it literally is short. The pipe typically is only about 12 to 18 inches in length, and has an air filter on the end.

Short Ram Intake: Chambered Intake Kits
There are short ram intake kits such as the Weapon R Secret Weapon that offer special technology designed to improve air flow to the engine with technology and tricks that the manufacture claims can out perform a cold air intake. These intakes however are typically as expensive as a cold air intake, except you do not need an air bypass valve. The Weapon R Secret Weapon features a built in tube that increases suction and velocity so the manufacture claims increased performance gains over standard short ram intakes. This is a chambered intake kit. Another chambered intake kit that is very popular is the AEM V2 Intake.

Cold Air Intake
The cold air intake is designed to increase horsepower by relocating the air filter outside of the engine bay, typically putting it into the fender. Because the air filter goes into the fender, the cold air is harder to install, but as it's name implies, it allows the engine to take in cooler air, producing more horsepower. Because of the extra complexity of the cold air intake, it typically has higher cost over the compariable short ram intake. Another issue for some, is that the cold air intake could sit low, and suck up water when running over water puddles. This causes hydrolock, and destroys the motor. There are air bypass valves which fix this, but that adds about another $50 in cost to the cold air intake.

thanks.

That weapon-r sri looks nice.... especially with all the girls around (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

not sure cause i havent used it but if your going to buy an intake buy a reputable brand... this car in particular has an issue with the maf mounting position where if it is'nt just right it will throw the CEL on. I havent used the weapon R but find ppl who hve and see what theve said about it.

There is a Mitsubishi dealer in Quebec that sells them. So I guess they are OK. What about the AEM V2?

Ive only used the K&N, Fujita and Injen... so I can only comment on those three... I found the K&n to be the best of them IN MY OPINION... that means others might not agree but it is what I found to cater to all of the things I wanted out of an intake... performance, sound, looks, ease of installation and maintainence of filter and components and reliability. Read up some more there are TONS of posts on here as well as other mitsu. sites that will steer you in the right direction for your personalized application.

too bad I cannot test them all (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I'll continue some reading and decide in a few weeks....