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post May 18 2006, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(eclipsed4utoo @ May 18 2006, 08:35 AM)
most likely, when somebody is swapping in an Evo engine, they are doing it for the turbo.  a turbo'ed car with NEVER pass inspection unless it came with a turbo from the factory.

however....usually sliding a $50 to the inspector will get you a new sticker.
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How come I see all these trick out cars everywhere, and some how there passing inspection. P.S. What is a Evo engine?
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QUOTE(keepit_simple01 @ May 18 2006, 12:24 PM)
How come I see all these trick out cars everywhere, and some how there passing inspection. P.S. What is a Evo engine?
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some states(like South Carolina) do not have inspections. we stopped having inspections in 1996. other states are very strict. paying off the inspector will get you passed. also, in California, there are a couple of shops that will pass you whether you should pass or not.

and the Evo engine is the badass engine that is in the Mitsubishi Evolution....you have never heard of the Evo?
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not sure which todo. i have the money saved up from selling my 1990 gt made into saleen mustang. it bored me. now im not sure if i should just buy the evo engine or the head for my 00 eclipse. i know you can do a head swap with the 4g64 and the evo 4-7 but which would be the better way to go. If i was to do the swap what else besides the head would have to be changed besides buying new cams and cam gears. Not exactly sure where to look for more info... but im wanting to build an engine that will be bad **** in the eclipse... i got 3500 to spend on the engine so far. Really thinking of the head swap... which would you prefur?
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post Jun 19 2006, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(eclipsed4utoo @ May 19 2006, 08:31 AM)
some states(like South Carolina) do not have inspections.  we stopped having inspections in 1996.  other states are very strict.  paying off the inspector will get you passed.  also, in California, there are a couple of shops that will pass you whether you should pass or not.

and the Evo engine is the badass engine that is in the Mitsubishi Evolution....you have never heard of the Evo?
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Can I put that engine in my eclipse, and yes I have heard of the evo.
How is everything going in this room, it's been a long time since I've been in here.
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post Jun 21 2006, 08:33 AM
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QUOTE(keepit_simple01 @ Jun 19 2006, 08:47 PM)
Can I put that engine in my eclipse, and yes I have heard of the evo.
How is everything going in this room, it's been a long time since I've been in here.
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anything can be done with enough money.
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QUOTE(eclipsed4utoo @ Jun 21 2006, 09:33 AM)
anything can be done with enough money.
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Good point!
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alright...i'm new at this so bear with me! i can put a 4g63t (as long as it's from an evo 4-7, but what about the 8 and 9 evos?) into a 3g eclipse rs or gs, with no problems, correct? i also have a question... i was doing research on the eclipse gt v6 and found out that the v6 in the eclipse has the same engine code as the 3000gt/stealth turbo engine. Would this swap work if you put it in the gt model? just wondering, i have not bought my eclipse yet and wanna do some research before buying a car. I have plenty of money to spend, just wanna spend it wisely!
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QUOTE(stlpsycho138 @ Jul 15 2006, 07:40 PM)
alright...i'm new at this so bear with me!  i can put a 4g63t (as long as it's from an evo 4-7, but what about the 8 and 9 evos?) into a 3g eclipse rs or gs, with no problems, correct?  i also have a question... i was doing research on the eclipse gt v6 and found out that the v6 in the eclipse has the same engine code as the 3000gt/stealth turbo engine.  Would this swap work if you put it in the gt model? just wondering, i have not bought my eclipse yet and wanna do some research before buying a car.  I have plenty of money to spend, just wanna spend it wisely!
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to the first question....yes, you are correct. However, I do not know about the Evo8 and Evo9 engines. Nothing is ever a perfect fit, but you won't have problems.

as for the V6 question....even though the engine codes are the same, they are two different engines. You will have to make modifications to the firewall to make the VR4 engine fit in the 3G V6 eclipse.

as for engine swaps in general...with the 4cyl, it has a great platform on its own. don't feel like you have to do an engine swap to make lots of power. the stock 4cyl engine can handle 15psi which will put you up around 300whp. a few engine modifications, and you will be at the 400whp in no time.
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alright, thanks alot for the help. After i posted that i searched some more and found out the same about the v6. My only proiblem with the 4 cyl is that none of them came with 4 wheel discs, which i prefer. I think i'll end up with the 4 anyway, but the gt is still a possibility. thanks again.
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post Jul 16 2006, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(stlpsycho138 @ Jul 16 2006, 11:37 PM)
alright, thanks alot for the help.  After i posted that i searched some more and found out the same about the v6.  My only proiblem with the 4 cyl is that none of them came with 4 wheel discs, which i prefer.  I think i'll end up with the 4 anyway, but the gt is still a possibility.  thanks again.
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QUOTE(eclipsed4utoo @ Jul 16 2006, 10:01 PM)
to the first question....yes, you are correct?  However, I do not know about the Evo8 and Evo9 engines.  Nothing is ever a perfect fit, but you won't have problems.

as for the V6 question....even though the engine codes are the same, they are two different engines.  You will have to make modifications to the firewall to make the VR4 engine fit in the 3G V6 eclipse.

as for engine swaps in general...with the 4cyl, it has a great platform on its own.  don't feel like you have to do an engine swap to make lots of power.  the stock 4cyl engine can handle 15psi which will put you up around 300whp.  a few engine modifications, and you will be at the 400whp in no time.
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If you don't have to swap the engine to get lots of power what few mods would you have to do to get it up at 300whp?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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QUOTE(stlpsycho138 @ Jul 16 2006, 11:37 PM)
alright, thanks alot for the help.  After i posted that i searched some more and found out the same about the v6.  My only proiblem with the 4 cyl is that none of them came with 4 wheel discs, which i prefer.  I think i'll end up with the 4 anyway, but the gt is still a possibility.  thanks again.
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its not hard to put disc brakes on the rear of the 4cyl. alot of GS owners have done it.
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QUOTE(keepit_simple01 @ Jul 16 2006, 11:58 PM)
If you don't have to swap the engine to get lots of power what few mods would you have to do to get it up at 300whp?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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the big modification would be a turbo kit.

if that was already on and you will already pushing 300whp and wanted to go for 400whp....you could get a more aggressive cam setup. you would probably want to go ahead and replace the pistons since you have the block out anyway.
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do you know where to get performance internals for a new 4g64? or is it the same as the old spyder engine... i've been looking around (not too hard granted) for performance parts for this engine and haven't really found anything.
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QUOTE(stlpsycho138 @ Jul 17 2006, 12:19 PM)
do you know where to get performance internals for a new 4g64? or is it the same as the old spyder engine... i've been looking around (not too hard granted) for performance parts for this engine and haven't really found anything.
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first, the 2G Spyder 4G64 is different from the 3G 4G64.

the ONLY company that makes internal parts for both 3G engines is RPW out of Australia www.rpw.com.au

also, Tearstone is a US distributor of RPW... www.tearstone.com

also, check out this topic.... http://www.mitsubishi-forums.com/t10086-up...-for-the-3g.htm
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QUOTE(eclipsed4utoo @ Jul 17 2006, 08:57 AM)
the big modification would be a turbo kit.

if that was already on and you will already pushing 300whp and wanted to go for 400whp....you could get a more aggressive cam setup.  you would probably want to go ahead and replace the pistons since you have the block out anyway.
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Yeah and how much would that all cost, and what would have to to modify to but a turbo on.
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Yeah and how much would that all cost, and what would have to to modify to but a turbo on.
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the cost for everything(turbo kit, cam, pistons) = ~$6000

of course you could do it cheaper by buying used parts and piecing a turbo kit together separately.

i don't understand you second question
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QUOTE(eclipsed4utoo @ Jul 17 2006, 02:58 PM)
the cost for everything(turbo kit, cam, pistons) = ~$6000

of course you could do it cheaper by buying used parts and piecing a turbo kit together separately.

i don't understand you second question
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How about putting that down on a new Dodge Charger? S-R/T 6k down and payments with good cred would be 250$ 300$ a month:-)
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QUOTE(keepit_simple01 @ Jul 17 2006, 04:10 PM)
How about putting that down on a new Dodge Charger? S-R/T 6k down and payments with good cred would be 250$ 300$ a month:-)
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what would be the fun in that?
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i have one too, dont swap....not worth the cash...u could strap a turbo on the motor and push 300 hp at about 5psi...that motor is great for a turbo, swap out the exhaust, get new heads and new pistons and u can push 10-12 psi, ud get like 400 hp out of that and it would cost about 6000-7000 with the heads and all the other stuff.... the kits are about 4-5000
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