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> 3G - 2G - Evo Swap Information
keepit_simple01
post Nov 13 2006, 11:50 AM
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Isn't this Tread like real old????

So why are people still posting to this?
**** life went on man!!!
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post Nov 14 2006, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE(Eddie Gordo @ Nov 13 2006, 10:54 AM)
i have one too, dont swap....not worth the cash...u could strap a turbo on the motor and push 300 hp at about 5psi...that motor is great for a turbo, swap out the exhaust, get new heads and new pistons and u can push 10-12 psi, ud get like 400 hp out of that and it would cost about 6000-7000 with the heads and all the other stuff.... the kits are about 4-5000
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I can't really tell which engine you are talking about.

if you are talking about the 4cyl engine, then no, 5psi won't get you 300whp. but the engine is great for a turbo. 13psi will put you around 300whp.

if you are talking about the V6, then no, the engine isn't great for turboing. the pistons suck. 8psi will put you around 300whp
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post Nov 27 2006, 07:58 PM
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I recently bought a 2001 GS that already has 100k miles on it. I was wondering if I should waste time buying new parts to replace all of the old rusted ones in the engine. (The guy who owned it before me did not take very good care of the engine) Or should I just go ahead and swap for another 4g64 engine with fewer miles from a salvage yard and then buy a turbo kit for it, or just get a 4g63 engine like I have been wanting.
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I have a question that Ive kinda guessed myself can an engine from a 3000 gt be fitted into an eclipse GT the blocks are the same but the sit opposite so im guessing no on that. But my question is can i incorperate the twin turbos from the 3000 gt vr4 and use them on the eclipse posibly by using the manifolds and turbo set up off the 3000 gt and switch them around to the eclipse? and also does anyone know if the 6G from the 3000GT spins clockwise or counter clockwise ?
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post Feb 13 2007, 09:34 PM
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whould you have to get rods if you put the evo head on
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I realize this is an old thread, but if you guys want info on the DOHC swap, or the AWD converstion please feel free to pm me
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post Oct 9 2007, 07:22 PM
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so an evo 7 engine will fit in my 2001 eclipse gs. and my engine is called a 4g63
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post Oct 9 2007, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(donaldseclipse @ Oct 9 2007, 07:22 PM)
so an evo 7 engine will fit in my 2001 eclipse gs. and my engine is called a 4g63
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i think your engine is something different i think the 4g74 not sure the 4g63 is for the 1g and 2g eclipse.correct me if i'm wrong.
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MOVE ON DANG, THIS IS DEAD ALREADY
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i know i might catch a lot of s#it for asking this, but does anyone know if the lancer motor will fit in a mirage that has the 1.5L motor? will it bolt right up to the stock engine mounts like the evo 3-7 motor does to the 3G rs/gs eclipse?

since i have learned that the 4g63 exhaust manifold meets to the 4g64 head. i found out that you can buy the turbo kits meant for the 1G/2G eclipse with the 4G63 motor, and the EVO 3-7 with the 4G63 motor. you have to use the universal piping system so you can customize the intercooler piping, but it will work the same. i am looking into a lot of the modifications for the fuel system also, but it looks as if the fuel rail meant for the 4G63 head also fits to the 4G64 head.

anyone looking for pricing a turbo kit for a 3G Eclipse RS/GS or even a 2G/1G can look up my topic post about the "cheap T3 turbo i saw on E-bay"
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post Apr 9 2008, 06:07 PM
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well my friend is looking into doing a swap he has a 02 gt and I was wondering if a 91 3000gt 6G72tt would pit or would it take a lot of mods
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post May 23 2008, 11:06 PM
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so what about the ecu? is there anything that you have to do to the ecu to get the evo turbo head swap to work and will a evo 8 head work?
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post May 24 2008, 03:06 AM
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QUOTE(donaldseclipse @ Oct 9 2007, 07:22 PM)
so an evo 7 engine will fit in my 2001 eclipse gs. and my engine is called a 4g63
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No your engine is a 4g64. the 4g63 went into the 1g GS and GST and GSX and the 2g GST and GSX but was a 4g63t. The 2g 2.4L is the 4g64. Read the first part before you go asking a question that's already been answered.
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post May 24 2008, 03:07 AM
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QUOTE(trackwhore @ May 23 2008, 11:06 PM)
so what about the ecu?  is there anything that you have to do to the ecu to get the evo turbo head swap to work and will a evo 8 head work?
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Did you not read the beginning of the post? only the Evo 4-7 head will fit the 3g's 4g64. None of the other ones. Learn to read before you ask a pointless question.
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QUOTE(silver03GS @ May 24 2008, 01:07 AM)
Did you not read the beginning of the post? only the Evo 4-7 head will fit the 3g's 4g64. None of the other ones. Learn to read before you ask a pointless question.
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well seeing as how Ryan-s never mentioned it. it is not a pointless question. you can take the head off of any 4G63t motor and fit it on the 4G64 block. you have to plug a couple holes and get a custom head gasket made. since neither of the motors have been redesigned, except for maybe internal components replaced for better parts. they have continued to be essentially the same engine for as long as they have been produced. one has more displacement than the other, but the blocks are the same sizes and the different heads bolt together to the different blocks. i'm not sure anyone would want to do a swap from DOHC to SOHC, but it should be possible? i hope no one tries it, but it should be feasible.

when speaking in terms of opposite orientation he mentioned that the engines still ran the same direction as our engines. this is why opposite orientation does not apply to head swaps. engine swaps it does, because the transmissions will not swap over, and the other transmissions will no bolt on.

remember though, the 3G eclipse does not have a locking, or limited slip differential. so if you swap for a evo head, slap on a turbo, and boost it up to 15psi. your looking at one heck of a burnout competition car, but your not going to win vary many races with that setup. also i would suggest you look into upgrading your suspension to components that have extreme adjustment parameters, and buying some high grade rubber. if you do not, your just going to slip and slide everywhere whenever you push on that accelerator pedal. yeah i have a 450HP eclipse that can't beat a stock geo prism because i can't push on my pedal to hard or i will just spin my tires!!!
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QUOTE(bullet_bike_syke69 @ May 27 2008, 12:25 AM)
well seeing as how Ryan-s never mentioned it. it is not a pointless question. you can take the head off of any 4G63t motor and fit it on the 4G64 block. you have to plug a couple holes and get a custom head gasket made. since neither of the motors have been redesigned, except for maybe internal components replaced for better parts. they have continued to be essentially the same engine for as long as they have been produced. one has more displacement than the other, but the blocks are the same sizes and the different heads bolt together to the different blocks.  i'm not sure anyone would want to do a swap from DOHC to SOHC, but it should be possible? i hope no one tries it, but it should be feasible.

when speaking in terms of opposite orientation he mentioned that the engines still ran the same direction as our engines. this is why opposite orientation does not apply to head swaps. engine swaps it does, because the transmissions will not swap over, and the other transmissions will no bolt on.

remember though, the 3G eclipse does not have a locking, or limited slip differential. so if you swap for a evo head, slap on a turbo, and boost it up to 15psi. your looking at one heck of a burnout competition car, but your not going to win vary many races with that setup. also i would suggest you look into upgrading your suspension to components that have extreme adjustment parameters, and buying some high grade rubber. if you do not, your just going to slip and slide everywhere whenever you push on that accelerator pedal.  yeah i have a 450HP eclipse that can't beat a stock geo prism because i can't push on my pedal to hard or i will just spin my tires!!!
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Ok one thing that I might be wrong on but, if opposite orientation doesn't matter, then why in the world does he mention it in this post which is about a head swap? That's the only thing that doesn't make sense to me. Because if it didn't matter in a head swap then why would he take the time to include that in his post?
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bfore anybody starts in on me i'm not trying to tick anybody off, or call anybody names. i did not want to pick at this post, but it looks as if some people just can't seem to grasp the concept. below i have colored what i input to better explain this so people can quit asking questions about it, and others can quit pretending, and know, what RyanS was saying. also i believe his post was meant for more modification experienced minds. so if you can't understand it after this i suggest you either PM eclipsed4utoo, or rob, or EMC 3000GT, or bobthecow and ask them about it on a more full scale, as they are all, or at least have been at one point in time, moderators.

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[quote=RyanS]I thought this would help clear up almost ALL engine swap questions