I got a new 1.8 and i want to get as much horse out of it as i can

i got an intake for it, i'm going to get a header for it, and i have a magnaflow exhaust for it

but thats all i can think of doing to it to get any more performance out of it

anybody have any ideas??? besides turbo and what not, i dnt have that kinda money

There are loads of things to do , that get HP. Most require sum larger amount of mechanical work. DOCH heads for that series 4G93 isnt availabe on yur end the word , so thats out unless yu get it imported frum an asian country . but are many things yu can do

like what?

best way is save up the money and get a turbo for it, or go cheap and get a NOS kit for it. or header, test pipe, catback, CAI you can get like 30+ hp or so

is that all people think. Ohh get a turbo. There are many ways to get loads of performance NA. Turbo yu have to fine tune it , make sure yu run petrol with good octane , to keep away frum pre detination and make sure yur spark timing is adjusted correctly and most of all drop compression.

And NOS is also a bad idea, cause it deteriates yur pistons after a while, and NOS isnt really "adding HP" Its juss a quick cheat for a little power boost temporarily. A couple seconds to be exact.

so why don't you show him many ways of big increase performance without Turbo or Nos,
for his 1.8 NA ? and how much will cost him ? do you have some good combination and where can he get parts for his big power ?

Firstly as i stated NOS kits arent really adding power, its not even permenant. short and temporary and deteriate the pistons after a while of usage. A better exhaust , a throttle body upgrade , better induction, ECU tuning. All of that is good for a substantial boost in power. To get deeper into it , raising the compression, using a MLS which has a lower compressed thickness. A DOCH head is a great ideal also for really getting in there, but i think the onlee DOCH head there is frum a 1990-1992 4G92 DOCH.

Many Mirage Asti and Colt BZR and Lancer GSR using a 4G93 DOCh frum factory made 171-182 PS , but doing simple things likehraising the compression with MLS , better throttle body and intake and exhaust and ECU tuning bring it respectibly higher

how much would all that cost parts and labor wise ? sounds like expensive ? all the fast mitsubishi cars are turbo charged, my starion, eclipse, R/T TT, are turbocharged, so as the galant vr4, 3kgt vr4, Evo, that tells me it good to have turbo, as for the stock motor, runs low boost 6-7 psi should be safe

NO , not all their fats cars are turbo. And it all costs considerably less than Turboing. Yu see one side of Mitsubishi. Eclipse, blah. Sure my VR4 is turbo also. So wut. Mirage Asti , Colt Cyborg , Asti BZT , Cyborg BZR and a whole lots of others were light without turbo. High compression and NA. The Diamate GS , GS-I GSR and other Diamante models between 1991-1995 had a 3.0 DOCH with 278 PS and so did the GTO without Turbo they both had AWD models , with variable geometry intake manifolds . The FTO did not have turbo , was easily adaptable to a 6G73 or 6A13 DOCH for 260 HP non turbo .

The Debonair 1993-1997.5 and early production 1998 and asian market (right hand drive countries)and 1996-1998 Mitsubishi Diamante GS , VR-S Si-II models got a 6G74 DOCH with varying between 257-279 PS depending on INVECS or INVECS II. Different models of the Pajero , Pajero GSR , Pajero Evolution , Triton/L200 Warrior Evolution also got the same DOCH 6G7 heads with or without MIVEC and were pretty well on power.

When yu look at the GTO and VR4 and even the evolution per say yur looking at a homologated model , Wuts the point of spending all the monies on a turbo to onlee boost less than a 4th BAR charge air . thats crazy . The stock internals are strong yes , but any small malfunction , like waste gate timing etc and there goes the engine. Its a waste to buy a turbo kit and utilize .3 percent of the turbo because yu cant afford to build the engine to run turbo properly. If atleast yu want to run turbo but cant afford the piston to lower compression and pressing them etc and all that work , get an MLS head gasket that will lower teh compression to about 8.2:1 , its simple and yu can boost about 1 BAR to 1.2 BAR charged air with the factory internals.

I myself on my 1990.5 Galant VR4 MR am boosting 1.8 BAR charged air , but i am using a 4G64N bottom end with my stock head and a twin scroll turbo. All big modifications. My Triton PLUS and Diamante on teh other hand are not turbo at all but both pushing big numbers. Its all about wut yu do and how safely , with making yur engine last , also with the monies yu can afford.

most of the models that you listed are not even available in the U.S

wuts yur point? the point is that , the way yu stated is that , the onlee way to get power is to turbo everythingf. and also that the onlee powerful mitsubishi models were made with turbo, which isnt true at all. Mitsubishi designed high powered , high feature NA models that were light in weight and had stuff like , variable geometry intake, MIVEC, etc. and not juss turbo models.