So my sri finally came, i was installing it last night, and got to step 18, which is bolting on a support for the intake itself. The picture they provide is horrible, and when i called their tech support, the guy i needed to talk to was gone; he should be calling be back today.

Anyway, the support is just a peice of metal with about a 135 degree bend in the last inch of 1 end, if i bolt it on to the intake, and put the intake in place, the only bolt even close to the right location is the bottom rear bolt on the throttle bore, but the angle isn't right and there isn't enough space.

K&N is supposed to be calling me back today at 6 local time, and apparently they may want pictures, so hopefully we can figure it out

Just wondering, since others here have this intake, if i'm crazy, or if there's no bolt on the 2.0 that they show in the picture...like maybe k&n's install guide's pics are for a 2.4 or something...

The picture actually looks pretty good. Take a close look, the bolt they show in the picture is there. Move the wiring harness and you'll see it good. Make sure you do it as the instructions say and install the bracket to the bolt/engine, don't hook it to the intake first and try to line it up. Install the bracket the way the picture shows, make sure you don't get it upside down / backwards. Once you get to the step where you actually hook the intake tube to the throttle body it should line right up and then you can hook the bracket to the intake.
I don't have the k&n intake but it seems like you might not think it lines up because you hooked the bracket to the intake first. Do it as the instructions say and you should be able to get it to line up fine.

i only hooked it to the intake first to try to figure out where the other end should go after an hour of trying to figure out which bold would get the bracket close to where it needed to be.

K&N tech support got back with me last night, and i sent them my pictures. They are being sent off to r&d along with my VIN, so they can find out what the deal is. The 2nd level tech support guy who got ahold of me confirmed that he can't see the bolt either...so maybe there's a couple different variants of....something? heh

Hmmm...interesting. I have the 2.4 and the bolt is definitely there, looks like their picture. Once they / you figure it out be sure to post back and let us know what the deal is. It may be of assistance to others.

It's cool, we all have problems sometimes. I just installed my K+N SRI on my 03, and everything was going to work, until the bolt that the support arm like ya'll have was supposed to bolt into, snapped. I was trying to break it loose, and the damn head snapped off. I just sat there and looked at it for a second. Like WTF!? But, a part of the filter sits on something the stock intake used to bolt into, so I think it should be good. I'll probably take a closer look at it later after work, and make sure nothing's going to move around or anything. I might have to rig something up so that it doesn't go anywhere, but other than that, the install went really well.

I put the 3 pics i sent to k&n up on picasa, in case anyone wants to have a look

http://picasaweb.google.com/havoc3d/Lancer#

I don't know if the 2.0 is different than my 2.4 or what, but it looks like your missing something. Check out my picture, there's a bolt and a part that I don't see in your pics. The missing bolt, on my car, is holding a part on that has several hoses coming out of it, and another bolt to the right, under the wire harness. I don't see this part in your pics at all.
The bolts have red arrows and the part has a yellow arrow. (the pic is big so you can see it better)

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when I had my lancer I also had the K&N installed and I had the same problem.
quick fix: the "cold air" heat shield is mounted firmly to the chasis. I went to walmart and got some high heat insulation foam, cut it out to fit exactly in the gap between the intake tubing and the hole in the heat shield and just put it in to dumb down the excess vibrations and it took care of all that extra wiggle room. and as a plus it kept that extra bit of hot air from coming into the enclosure. i never temp tested it to see the diff but im pretty sure it had to do something. see if this can work for you. it may not be the most technical fix in the world but its sure as hell alot better than leaving it hanging there at the mercy of gravity lol.

I installed mine this past weekend on my 08 ES, and had the EXACT same problem. I've been running it a week without the mounting bracket, and have had no issues. It seems to be in there tight enough that it's not moving around. I may do the same thing that "trini tuner" mentioned, but more for the extra heat protection.

Keep us posted on the status.

So it sounds like the 2.0 is different than the 2.4. IDK what that part is that the 2.4 has, but it looks like the 2.0 doesn't have it (at least not in that location). The strange thing is on the K&N install documentation it shows the same thing that the 2.4 has, but when their intake came out it was only cleared for the 2.0 engine. I even spoke with K&N and they said, at that time, that the intake was not designed for the 2.4 and they had no idea if it would fit the 2.4, but the picture in their documentation seems to show a 2.4 engine. (or at least a 2.0 with the same part that the 2.4 has, which you guys don't seem to have)
Very strange.

i had the exact same problem when i installed mine 2 months ago. I was going crazy looking for that damn bolt to mount the bracket to. After about 2 hours of looking and measuring and staring at the install pic i finally said skrew it and didnt install the bracket. I just tightened the clamps extra tight and it seems to be holding well the last 2 months without the bracket (i popped the hood and checked it today).

Just an update. Shot the guy I've been dealing with at K&N an email, R&D is still looking for a lancer with the 4b11 engine, apparently, so no news there.

I've been running it without that bracket for the last week or so, and it hasn't moved at all, so for now I'm not terribly concerned. The only reason I even really brought K&N in on it is to make sure their warranty is valid if I ever have any issues.

I'll post again when I hear back from them.

Wait, so what is the jist of this thread? Mounting the K&N intake is more precise on a 2.4 than a 2.0? Or the other way around?

The install documentation for the k&n intake shows a bracket that's get bolted to the engine in a certain location. The bolt that you use to mount the bracket does not exist on a 2.0L, but does exist on a 2.4L engine. Whether that makes it more precise, durable, or even better... well only time will tell.

The think the bigger question people should be asking, who bought this intake, is did I get what was marketed to me and I paid for? Meaning.... the install pictures seem to show a 2.4L engine. When K&N first came out with their intake they specifically said it was designed for the 2.0L engine. I personally called K&N and spoke to a tech who said do not install this on a 2.4L, it was not designed for it, wasn't tested on it, and we won't honor our million mile warranty if you do. If it was designed for the 2.0L why are the install pics of a 2.4L? Either R&D isn't talking to marketing or someone messed up big time. Did the intake really get r&d'd on a 2.4L and k&n thought it was a 2.0L? Did some kid who had a 2.4L, thinking he had a 2.0L, let kn use his car for r&d an kn never verified? If the install pics show a 2.4 is what they sold to 2.0L owners not running at optimal performance because it was designed for a 2.4 which has a completely different air/fuel mapping curve? I do notice that the kn intake position for mounting the mass air sensor is in a completely different location than where RRM and even fujita has it mounted, does that matter? Is the kn intake a design that will work on either engine and supply the correct air flow to the different needs of each engine? Why say it was originally only for the 2.0, then now say it is also for the 2.4 and that you get the exact same gains on each engine? Either K&N messed up big time or maybe the pics were from when they were testing it on a 2.4, even before they announced it would work on the 2.4. IDK, something doesn't add up here. If I just laid down $300 for this intake, I'd be concerned about what I actually got. I think these are all questions the people who bought this intake deserve to have.

I may just call K&N myself and see if I can get some answers for you guys.

You're bringin me down man! I still want this intake, and I hear nothing but good words about it EXCEPT the mounting issue.

^ LOL, sorry about that. I hear good things about it too and K&N is top of the line stuff, no doubt. I just have a curious mind and started wondering why the pics didn't match the 2.0. Hopefully its nothing more than when they took the pics they had it on 2.4 (maybe a installed 2.0 wasn't available at picture time).

Ok here's the deal............. I just got off the phone with K&N tech dept. The guy I spoke with was very knowledgeable and was aware of this issue.

So to clear up a few things:

The K&N intake was originally r&d'd on a 2.0L engine.
The install document on the K&N website was created when they designed the intake for the 2.0. The pictures are of a 2.0L engine. The "missing" bracket / mount point was not missing on the car they did the r&d on. What they have found is that the mounting point that exists on all 2.4L engines was originally on the 2.0L. The pics are definitely of a 2.0L engine. They believe that mid-stream Mitsubishi made a change to the 2.0L engine which removed that mounting point. They are trying to find out about the change from mitsubishi and see if there is a VIN range where the change occurred. K&N is still looking into it. They did say you should be able to get that bracket from mitsubishi and be able to mount it like the install document shows.

But rest assured the intake works just fine on both engines. They eventually tested it on the 2.4 and cleared it for sale. When they designed the intake they knew of the existence of the 2.4 so they designed it (in the techs words) as overkill for the 2.0L engine. They had to make sure the intake would perform optimally on both engines. They had to make sure that the intake would get the air metrics right on the 2.4 so it's "overkill" for the 2.0L. I asked if that would make it run rich on the 2.0, but he said no. They (obviously) are aware that the 2.4 and 2.0 have different air/fuel mapping, but the mass air sensor sorts it all out and it runs optimally on both engines. Both engines get essentially the same gains, but he did say that the torque/horsepower curve for the two engines is different. The torque/horsepower gain will kick in sooner on the 2.4, but is a little smoother/flatter overall due to the longer stroke and the power gains kick in later on the 2.0, but are more steep. The kit is exactly the same for either engine, except that since the 2.4 has a bigger throttle body there is a silicone hose to use during install to account for the bigger throttle body.

So it appears that K&N did do their homework on this one and that mitsubishi threw in a curve ball mid-stream for the 2.0 engine. The tech also said if anyone has any questions or concerns to either send an email or give them a call, they are glad to speak with anyone.

Great research. Now for the guys that still don't have the mounting bracket. Did you ask the tech if you would be ok to run the intake without mounting it to the non-existent bracket? This definetly supports my overall decision to buy the RRM SRI

Glad I got 2009. Will be getting this intake in a week or so. I'm just dying to hear the sound.... and i guess *some* performance gain. haha

No, that's one thing I forgot to ask him. The only thing he did say is that you should be able to get the "fix" from mitsubishi (the dealer) since they made the change. If anyone is concerned about running it without it mounted just give k&n a call, they are good about answering questions.