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| jas3113 |
Jul 27 2005, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(jaranc @ Jul 25 2005, 02:12 PM) I will follow your turbo project with great interest. I too am tickled at the prospects of turboing the expo. Seems that van/wagons are back in rage..esp with Mercedes' R350/R500 just out. I do think though that the weakest link is the auto tranny. I will be researching on common trannys with other mitsu cars. I do prefer to keep it auto. Thank. I will update as oftern as possible, currently the car has developed an overheating problem and looking into an all aluminum Koyo radiator for the Evo I,II,III. Depending what year your Expo is your tranny may be interchangable with the DSM's (Eagle Talon, Mitsu Eclipse and Plymouth Laser). I'll list the different tranny codes when I get home from dinner tonight. QUOTE(BobC92 @ Jul 25 2005, 09:12 PM) SP? Is that the 5-door (4 regular and a hatch)? Mine is the LRV AWD 4-door (2 regular, passenger side slider and a hatch). Sounds like yours has the 4G63 in it already? If so, that should make the 4G64 swap pertty easy.... The SP is a 5 door. So far it's been grea to drive :). I acutually lucked out and have the G64B in mine. It's a 6 bolt block, which is suppose to be less prone to crankwalk. I have most part to do the conversion already, just need to order a set of pistons and rods. I'll be checking to see if the DSM harness will plug into the the other harnesses. QUOTE(RayH @ Jul 27 2005, 03:38 PM) I have a 94 Expo SP 5-speed with the 4G64 engine. Unfortunately it's not AWD. It's my daily driver right now (my project car which used to be my daily driver is a 92 GVR4). Only mods on the Expo so far are a K&N air filter, Oilguard filter and stock GVR4 wheels. One thing to watch out for is the crank pulley which will fail just like on the 4G63 engines and can result in bent valves. The AWD Expo is also covered by the same transfer case recall that affects the AWD DSMs and Galants. There was an Expo specific site a bunch of years ago that covered possible mods but unfortunately the guy that ran it sold his Expo and the site disappered. I think what jas3113 is planning is putting the 4G63T head, intake and exhaust on the 4G64 block resulting in 2.4L turbo. A bunch of people have been doing this on the DSM's and GVR4's and making some sick power on regular pump gas. Hey Ray, Good to see another GVR4 member here :) :beer: . How's the car looking with the GVR4 wheels? I'm thinking about going with 16's or 17's with mine but unsure yet. BTW if anyone needs any thing from the factory workshop manuals let me know. John
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| jas3113 |
Aug 24 2005, 09:22 AM
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QUOTE(ScrawnyMcPale @ Aug 23 2005, 11:00 AM) Cool, Hey thanks for the leads. Did the RVR at the shootout run in the 1/4? I'd like to someday have a stroker 4g63 Expo. :grin: Is it possible to swap out transmissions as well? Thanks again. No problem. Yeah heard it ran 13's. After I finish my Celica All Trac motor, I'll be taking out my 2.4 from the expo and building it up. It may not be possible to swap out the tranny unless you swap out the rear also. The trans used in the RVR is the same as the Galant GSX which has a different final drive. John
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| jas3113 |
Sep 5 2005, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE(ScrawnyMcPale @ Aug 26 2005, 10:27 AM) Hey John, just wondering if you ever got those tranny codes. Thanks -Jeff Hey Jeff, Yeap here's the link http://www.mitsubishi-forums.com/t7005-expo-tranny-specs.htmJohn
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| expositor |
Oct 16 2005, 06:10 PM
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hi bobc,
took your advice and followed your nicely detailed directions, and installed the same intake you have, today. i only took it on a short ride around town, so i couldn't judge all-out acceleration, but i noticed the engine 'gained' about 150 to 200 rpm's at any given roadspeed in the highest appropriate gear, though idle speed was up about a hundred.
i'm anxious to see how it is on the highway on my way to work, but with 225,000 plus on the engine, any increase in mileage through freer breathing is improvment enough.
many thanks for your help!!! jim
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| faygo_chick69 |
Jul 24 2006, 08:25 PM
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does your car look like mine?? sorry but you didnt mention the year ALSO DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT TRANSMISSION WILL FIT IN MY SPACEWAGON i have a talon sittin in the back yard as a donar if it fits.... Attached thumbnail(s)
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| Jonathan Taylor |
Jul 25 2006, 02:44 PM
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AWESOME! I finally have found the information I've needed to get my 92'Expo LRV Sport where I need it. I'm hoping to do the same thing the author of this thread was thinking. SO, change the intake, put better suspension as I thought, and she will be there mechanically as far as I think I want to take her. Thanks, Joanthan http://www.rallyboy.comRallyboy.com
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| grndsm |
Jul 14 2008, 12:10 PM
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As promissed :grin: EVO 9 suspension upgrade is very similar to 1G/GVR4 upgrade. Front: Knuckle connection – EVO uses 14mm bolts where as DSMs/LRVs/Summit use 12mm. Some people just use oversized washers and fix everything in the “most negative camber” position. That works OK, but because holes are oversized, things can come apart. So I welded some washers in the “most negative camber” position. The knuckle on the EVO is 27mm, DSM/LRV/Summit knuckle is 22mm. Therefore you need two 2.5mm spacers to take up the space. Here is a photo of welded-on washers and spacers. (IMG: http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/3117000-3117999/3117423_6_full.jpg) Installed photo: (IMG: http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/3117000-3117999/3117423_7_full.jpg) The EVO strut top mount is very similar to the LRV/Summit top mount. They have 3 mounting studs, spaced at 120 degrees of each other. The difference is that the studs on EVO top mount are located on a larger base circle. So you just have to elongate the holes a bit. (IMG: http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/3117000-3117999/3117423_8_full.jpg) On the other side, I elongated those holes to give me a maximum camper. So I will end with slightly more camber on the passenger side, which could come in handy during left turns… (IMG: http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/3117000-3117999/3117423_9_full.jpg) Next, I had to mount the brake line bracket. I simply used a ~3” extension to pick up the mounting point on EVO strut. (IMG: http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/3117000-3117999/3117423_5_full.jpg) Rear: Springs, stock riding height was ~1” higher in the rear than in the front. Therefore, I have decided to cut out 1” worth of spring (one coil) to increase the spring rate. For the dampers I used EVO 9 rear shocks which have received a “DSM/GRV4 style” modification in the rear (welded in stock bottom mount). (IMG: http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/3117000-3117999/3117423_3_full.jpg) On top, I simply installed Summit/LRV upper mount, while leaving out the spring. You will also need to cut down the rear spring perch or you could kit the body and/or inside of the wheel. My original trimming was not enough and I scraped my balancing weights on the rear wheel. (IMG: http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/3117000-3117999/3117423_4_full.jpg) I was afraid that this upgrade will result in a very harsh ride. I was wrong! The ride is very reasonable and handling is great! I still haven’t aligned the car, so I am not sure about the specs that I ended up with. And I haven’t pushed it to the limit yet. But from a few miles (and on-ramps) I am very happy with this upgrade! Final ride height: (IMG: http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/3117000-3117999/3117423_1_full.jpg) (IMG: http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/3117000-3117999/3117423_2_full.jpg) Passenger side camber: (IMG: http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/3117000-3117999/3117423_10_full.jpg) I whish I would have done this on both sides. Future plans: - Front and rear struts bars - I am usually not a big fan of those bars. In most cases they are done purely for looks. But in this case, I have more than doubled the stiffness of my suspension on what isn’t known as particularly stiff chassis. So I think that using bars is a very good idea. - Upgrade the rear springs - I wan’t to get stiffer rear springs. Mitsubishi EXPO (7 passenger wagon) come with stiffer version of these springs. I will get it a shot next.
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