Alright guys! Here is the deal I need you help! I got my license last year and now I think it's time I get my own car! I can't decide between the OZ Rally or the EVO 8. The thing is if I get the OZ Rally i'll be putting in the turbos and stuff like that aswel sorta similar to the EVO 8 to get some horse power. I can tell you this! I have the need for speed and I love power lolz... :( I love it so much I even race my sisters 01 Civic lolz! What factors should I look at when deciding? I want something that is already fast or I can make fast. I was thinking go with the EVO 8 because I wouldn't be able to put in turbos and stuff till the car is paid off and that way I would already have it! I also love to races!!! If I do get the EVO 8 I will attempt to start a small team with a few buddys here in IL. I will be doing a racing site aswel so I hope that proves I love speed lolz! It will be my first car ever and I would really like a stick! If I can ride a motorcycle manual how hard can a car be?!?! So please tell me you opinion cuz I really want a car!

Well if your going to try go big power id say get the evo but you got to be carefull to make sure you can afford one,service every 4500 miles,addiction to petrol,high insurance etc. Owning one gets expensive fast

You're not gonna like this, but it's really tried and true. Get a beater for your first year of driving, you don't want to wreck that brand new Evo before you can pay it off.

Hehe well I drive my sisters car now for almost a year and no accidents yet...Im not that crazy to crash or anything like some guy almost did to my dad on the way home from work I was about to fight the guy but we drove off.. But my sisters car is like a beater lolz but when you said about service every 4500miles what kinda services we talking i thought oil was every 3 lolz but i dunno let me in on some info to help me make a better choice..and im not much of a car guy so dont use anything too technical on me hehe i just started geting into cars and im slowly learning!

Your insurance will KILL you on an Evo. My first car was a 1993 Dodge Shadow ES V6 and I paid $1200 a year on full-coverage in 1998. I was 16 and paid cash for it. I am now 22, and I pay $960 with NO tickets. I guarantee you will pay at LEAST $2000 a year for an Evo at 17...I think that's how old you are?



I wouldn't say a beater...but something you can pay cash for. You don't want a nice car for your first one, just something reliable. I would honestly get an ES or LS or MAYBE an OZ...mainly because they are inexpensive and don't require the maintenance of an Evo...



If that's true...I wouldn't even THINK of trying to make it fast, you will screw it up and it won't be driveable...your first car should just get you from A to B with a nice stereo system...as was mine.

I am not trying to put you down, just teach you from experience. I wanted to build-up my first car but my parents stopped me, and I am glad they did. I am now taking my 2003 Lancer ES and building that up...when I graduate and start working at BMW full-time. Do what you will, but just be smart and think about the future. Trust me, it comes faster than you think.

It might be different in U.S but thats what mitsi europe say,every 4500miles or 6 months.
Im not sure what they do for the service and now that i think about it,the u.s cars dont have ayc so maybe they dont need servicing as regularly...??????

utiheadbanger thanks alot for the experience yah I know insurance is a **** my sisters boyfriend is 20 and he pays $1200 half a year for a vw gti 1.8turbo with mods.. But the oz was my original choice and build that up the only thing i planned on it was a stage 1 turbo from tubo-kits.com an intake and maybe ecu upgrade and nothing more but body work i've been driving for a year and i can almost ride anything on wheels right now lolz just gotta take my uncles beater motorcyle out of the garage for a spin lolz. but yah insurance is always a **** im getting it with my parents tho no alone so itll be a little cheaper they told me $400 per 6 months to put my name under my parents van.. and that's with discounts but i don't qualify lolz but i will most likely go with the oz and i have alot of friends in the area that are really into cars and stuff like that, they are all helping me out to get better at it but thanks for your advice i listen to it not let it pass through my head coming from a 22yr old i think i should listen you've been through it and can tell me what's best for me! thanks dude now ive made up my mind!but i still want to get a mini cooper type s lolz!

Watch out for the cops...you get pulled over, you are in trouble in some states. I would do the OZ, trust me...as a first car it's worth it.

Evo's are great!


If you have money to buy them and for the upkeep;short life on tires and brakes.

its true man... if you trash your car....and the insurance adjusters find out you were actually the primary driver...you(or your old man) will be paying for the wreckage

Look the EVO comes with all of the goodies that you CAN NOT match by any means.
Ya it has the strong engine and great tranny (rear too). But think about the steering/suspension/looks/braking.
You'll dump so much money into a reg. lancer to make it fast as an EVO but what are you going to do about the other stuff I just listed? Spend 50k more?
It shouldn't even be a toss up if you were really that interested.

Hmm that's very true what you're saying but speaking of evo 8 what are some really good sites for performance parts and body kits for the evo 8?

i love my evo8. and i've seen lancers try and copy the 8 but it's just not the same

you said your not really a car guy, so dont even bother trying to build up the car yet. it will cost you more in labor than it will in the parts to build it up, and youd probably **** it up/ get whatever you want, and study it, learn about it, then after you know about it and have the money, build it up.

Ok heres the deal. The Evo8 Safety-wise is safer than the ES to OZ because of its AWD capabilites. It handles great at the power it pushes out, but its like MiTTech said, at the cost of all that handling/performance there's a cost. Tires and 4! brakes wear down fast, you'll be paying High Octane prices for gas, expensive synthetic oils for lubrication.

The Turbo is something you won't have to worry about, all the Evo8's (with the exception of the RS, Stage 0 non-intercooled) on the market come with a Stage 1 T3/T4 (intercooled) turbocharger, stock. Bodykits is something fun. There are so many Evo enthusiasts out there its not even funny, so any bodykit dealer you can think of has something for the Evo's.

Now on the latter of the list. You can trick out an 05 ES/LS/OZ-Rally to meet and/or beat the performance of a 287HP 278TQ Evolution for a lot less than the cost of an Evolution on 89 Grade Octane gas. The bad thing is you're going to have to build the car up yourself (which means you'll have to wait). They have dressup-kits for the ES/OZ to look similar to the Evo8, or even more aggressive looking than the Evo. Thats my plan for my lil ES.

If you're really indecisive on what you want... there's the middle man of the Lancer Family. The Ralliart is Mitsubishi's champion car. It holds spots on the WRC Rally Championships, and almost everyone rallying has one. Either that or the Subaaaaaarooooo STi... (ack... almost gagged saying that) So performance and rally handling in one lil package.

Dude, you probably already got a car by now but if not you should get a 1st Gen Eclipse/Talon/Laser awd turbo, or something comparable. Cheap, fast, and fun to work on.

What the **** are you talking about? There is a reason the RS Evo has the same amount of HP! The main differences are the lack of power options, the negation of the stereo, and the negation of the wing. There are other subtle differences, but those are the most obvious.



Boy, we need to get you onto a chassis dyno. You don't know anything about performance other than what you've READ.

In order to keep this short and explain thoroughly, I will state one obvious fact that anyone who knows ANYTHING about performance will agree with- you can't gain massive HP numbers without engine build up. If you try to boost more than 6 or 7 psi on the stock 4G94 engine, you will BLOW THE **** OUT OF IT. You need a 4 bolt main conversion, forged pistions and connecting rods, different heads, forged or billet crank, etc, just for the ENGINE. After modifying or totally replacing the trans, you need suspension work to compensate for the added power. The stock ECU needs either a piggyback or needs to be totally replaced. The next thing, the fuel system. Higher volume fuel pump and bigger injectors. Change the stock ignition/spark system. This all after changing the intake/exhaust system, body kit, rims, brakes, cooling, etc. After all is said and done, to get all of this worked out will require about $15 - $20,000 PLUS the cost of the car. This is why when people buy new cars, they will buy performance ones to make performance or just totally swap the engine/trans altogether. I don't believe people who say they have 400HP TO THE WHEELS in the ES because it simply is way too much work and they probably don't have a dyno and a wideband to actually tune the car.



UH....since when did Mitsu rally FWD Lancers? Why did they bring the EVO8 over here? Oh, yeah, it's because of it's popularity and RALLY STATUS based on it's AWD system! Man, get your facts straight before you go and post nonsense, please. To those of us who actually work in the field and tune everyday cars, you make us look really bad.

GET A STROKER KIT!!

Does anyone here know how long Mitsubishi plans to run the whole EVO thing for? EVO 20? EVO 50? Will someone fly an EVO 500 out of their local dealer on Mars someday? Sure, they're great cars, but the whole concept will start sounding ridiculous (and tired).

I don't know. Look at how many incarnations of the Camaro were made, the Mustang, etc. Any car is like that. Hell, if they all used Roman Numerals to distinguish models, the Mustang would be up as high as the Evo...granted they were similar between years (i.e. the 1999 GT and the 2003 GT look similar) BUT...they have slight differences like the Evo VIII and IX have. So, we'd be on Mustang GT XVI or something like that.