yes they went in debt b/c of the 0/0/0 deal they had a couple of years ago. what happened was when the customers bought the car b/c they wouldn't have to make a payment for a year. the only thing mitsu didn't tell the customers was that the car was only going to be financed for 4 years. so after the first year, when the first payment came around...it was like $700-$800/month for 4 years. so about 85% of the customers never made the first payment and the cars got repo'ed. this is HORRIBLE for an automotive maker.



im not saying they are going out of business tomorrow. im just saying, the outlook of the company, is not very good. for this reason, and the depreciation value, are the reasons i will never buy another mitsubishi.



IF you don't believe me, search the internet. it was a huge story about 6 months ago

i dont care what anyone says, i love the eclipse, and mitsubishi motors

I like the look of the new eclipse but I just wish that there was a 4g63t under that hood instead of the V6. Imagine if they had made the car with the 4g63t and ditched the front wheel drive for an option of All wheel or rear wheel drive. I would be forced to purchase one. In front wheel drive and v6 form I'll have to pass.

i would have rather seen the 6G72TT engine in it.

That would be an awsome engine in it. If it was paired with rearwheel drive that would be one heck of a fun car. I can barely stand the torque steer on my gst for daily driving and my car doesn't have nearly as much power as the new eclipse. I'm guessing they are reaching the limits powerwise on Front wheel sports cars designed for mass consumption. Torque steer is no big deal for someone who is drag racing their car every friday and saturday night but for a highschool kid who's parents bought him a new car for graduation this will become an issue when he punches the gas to switch lanes and ends up on top of the divider.

The 4g63 is not as good of a choice for this car. It is a larger car, that really needs the refinded power and torque the mivec 3.8 generates. It suites the car very nice, plus you don't have to rev the engine to get the car going. The torque curve is pretty much flat from 1500 on

i was thinking that also. the weight of this car would rob so much hp from the 4G63

The Lancer evo is powered by the 4g63t and the motor sure doesn't have any problems moving the 3,263lb curb weight of that car. The new eclipse's curb weight is 3,570 that's only 207lbs more than the evo. That difference is the same as having a fat chick in the passenger seat of your evo. Now are you gonna tell me that the evo would be better off powered by the Mivec 3.8? Come on now. That eclipse needs a 4g63t and all wheel drive and than it will be considered a real sports car.

Yeah, but the evo motor does not build 260 ft lbs at 1500 rpm either.....

And neither does the new eclipse Gt. It makes 260lb feet at 4500 not 1500 and that is at the flywheel not the front wheels. I can understand your partial to this engine because you just bought one of these but I'm trying to look at the future of mitsubishi and how it makes a choice of whether they want to sell lots of cars or go the way of the yugo. Oh and by the way the 4g63t In the 2006 evo makes 289LB feet at 3500 rpm thats an extra 29 lb feet at 1000rpm lower than your eclipse. The 4g63t is just a superior engine hands down.

You guys are missing the point all together. MITSUBISHI DOES NOT WANT THE ECLIPSE TO BE A PERFORMANCE CAR. They have the Evo for that. They will NEVER put a performance engine into the Eclipse as long as they are still selling the Evo. It would be complete stupid on their part. The Evo costs more than the Eclipse. They WANT to sell more of the Evo than they do of the Eclipse because they will make more money.

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I have to say, jwhinerman, your car looks awesome in that photo :thumbsup:

Mitsu might pull through, but theyre definetely in trouble


as far as not selling tho... i had to wait 3 months just to test drive one, because the Mitsu dealership here would get shipments of 6-10 and they'd be gone in a week every time. those GT V6' are flying out of the showroom. i dont think theyre not selling, i think theyre just not getting enough to the dealerships.. also, there's a 2,000 dollar mark up on them here... that alone tells me that theyre selling faster than theyre making it to the dealer.

I disagree. A company does not make more money by selling a whole bunch of one product and neglecting some of their other products. If you are involved in the world of sales you would know that a move like that is just a nail in the coffin for a hurting company. I cannot see how they would not benefit from a performance sports coupe. Isn't that the original intended purpose of a sports coupe? Performance and handling? A high performance coupe would not take away from the sales of the evo because people who purchase an evo are looking for a high performance sedan. not coupe, And they would benefit from actually having a real sports car that can match up in numbers to their current opposition. which unfortunately right now would be the new Mustang. The new eclipse cannot keep up with the new mustang and that is sad. Remember when the first generation of the eclipse/laser/talon was released Its primary target was the mustang and Camaro/Firebird which it could compete with. The new eclipses primary target is heavy sleds like the Camry Solara. Makes me want to cry.

Just so you know....sales of the 2G GST and GSX accounted for about 15% of ALL eclipse purchases. Thats the reason Mitsubishi decided to target the older population. They have found out that targeting a young audience didn't turn out too well.

And the older crowd looking for a sports coupe would more likely gravitate towards the Mustang or the GTO. Newer versions of the cars their brains associate with the words sports car. Then why not produce an eclipse that can compete with them?

the mustang and GTO are out of the eclipse's class. the 350z and G35 are in the eclipse's class....thats why Mitsu gave the eclipse almost the exact amount of power as both of these cars.

you have to remember. Mitsu isn't run by people who actually use their head. Maybe thats the reason the company has been doing so badly.

Got mine last friday (the 16th) and have only seen one othert on the road since they came out. Which kinda surprises me.

I have had my 4G for almost 4 wks. I have 2300 miles on the car live in a major city...Houston, Texas and have not seen even one other 06 on the rode.
Very odd! Now the new Mustangs are every where.
Matthew

The car is a bargain at 27 and change. have had it 2 months now and love it torque steer is not an issue with the traction control on . Car turns alot of heads, does use alot of fuel must burn premiun at 10.5 compression. Does anyone know where to get the specs on this engine example is the crank forged etc.
MAC WEST NYC
Ps finally saw a couple of them around the nyc area. .