OK looks like honda is going to make good of the wishes of prospective civic si owners and put a real engine in it this time and bring it back to a coupe. I'm all for bringing out new cars for me to test drive and sell but unfortunately I'm afraid we may have another backlash of kids whipping around trying to race everything and anything in their SI like we had in 99-2001. Get ready for lots of "JDM Type R tyte stickers yo". and fools stalling out at stoplights trying to race everycar that has a rear spoiler on it.
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Is it still wrong wheel drive?

Is it just me or did everybody seem to like the concept but by the time the design is in production the car already looks dated?I certainly wouldnt notice it in the street,it looks dull and boring

yup still wrong wheel drive.

If you guys mean non-all wheel drive when you say wrong wheel, the only response I have is that the Evo is the only Mitsu car out NOW that is AWD. Yes, there were past cars.

As far as the new Civic Si, my Mitsu Lancer ES is getting traded in come March 2006 for one. I am tired of the low resale value of them and the car isn't worth it anymore.

rear wheel drive is king for performance.

all wheel drive is for people who can't handle rear wheel drive. (that's why I have it. :grin: )

front wheel drive is for econoboxes.

of course this is my opinion, but I have yet to see a front wheel drive sports car. ;)

Only dispute I have with that is it is used for a lot of rally racing and you need TOTAL control.

Mid-Engine, Rear-Wheel is a TRUE sports car. As far as front wheel drive, well, yeah it's econoboxes but the majority of import compacts are FWD.

i think that civic looks good. 197hp, 6spd, LSD for under $20K. thats hard to beat.

There is no such thing as a front wheel drive sports car.

As far as rear wheel drive is concerned, you can't have one all year round, at least if you live in snow country 4 months out of the year.

I don't really care for front wheel drive cars, but when I have to drive 45 minutes to work everyday, I need something that will handle the snow on the highway. And since I can't afford an Evo or WRX, I'll settle for my Lancer ES.

Oh whatever.

My current car is a C230 kompressor. I live in Wisconsin. we have 5 months of winter and 7 months of road construction. It's a rear wheel drive car. It's the best snow car I've ever had. Traction control can do amazing things. In a snow storm with Blizzacks on I'm in the left lane going the speed limit while 4x4 chevy trucks are cowering in the left lane going 35~45 mph, with the econoboxes following in there tire tracks.

The only thing you need for rear wheel drive in the winter is common sense.

before the benz there was the 2 wheel drive full size chevy pickup. granted I didn't go off roading or blazing new trails in the middle of a blizzard, but I never got stuck. bags of cement in the back, drive normal. you'll be fine.

what?????? are you saying that not suffering from sever understeer and having traction on a launch are good things???? :beer:

completely 100% totally ****!!!!!!! cmon its a civic

its actually a nice civic. cheap, powerful for the amount of money, reliable.

yeah i'll give Honda some credit for this one. that Civic is a pretty freaking good deal for >$20k. Now, would I ever own one? no, but that's because i'm so ridiculously prejudiced about Civic owners being morons who think VTEC means Very Tall Engine Coolant and that this miracle coolant actually replaces a turbo. Also, it n33d$ 4 B16a 3NJ1n3 yO!

I agree as long as people don't make it look TOO ricey.



I know what you mean...I tried explaining Variable Timing Electronically Controlled to a Civic junkie and he 1. had no clue what it meant and 2. insisited his Civic DX had VTEC. It isn't a replacement for a turbo, but a great way to acheive efficiency. For anyone who's driven an Acura/Honda product and has hit VTEC knows the nice smooth sound it makes. I got the privelege of driving a 1997 Acura Integra Type R on our dyno at school slightly modded and was impressed.

I figured i would just add a note since im the only person here who owns the car.
Key things here:

-200 WHP stock (yes wheel hp, this is a tad higher than avg, but basically the posted 197 is to the wheels)
-stock helical LSD, that works wonders
-tad torque steer, but adds to responsive steering for me
-great brakes and tires stock (but i cant say to much on that cause neither of those are stock anymore)
-NICEST INTERIOR under 20k for sure, rides sounds and feels like entry luxuary (better than rsx by far with road noise)
-The rear required stiffining to forgo usual honda understeer

now, what this comes down to is, whippin on a number of cars on the road with 20k car. If the car was infact RWD, this would be the only car i would want unless i was gonna get up into a G35 or porsche.

So the bottom line is, can 28k civic, whip on a 28k evo? that is possible

Really???someone find a link to honda's homepage,i was looking and cant find the civic si,well not the coupe anyway.But the hatchback only has 160(at flywheel)so how could the coupe hae so much more??

im just as dumbfounded as you. i looked up the regular coupe(thinking he got the regular coupe mixed up with the SI), and the regular coupe only has 140hp at the flywheel.

Ummm the 06GT eclipse is no slouch go test drive it you'll change ya mind real quick! :)

But it's still a front wheel drive car!!!

Nothing feels better to drive than a RWD car. Which is why I miss my Supra.

AWD is fun in the snow, or if you drive Rally.